d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Diablo II > Diablo 2 Discussion > The Trophy Room > Rate Tele Javazon Ring
Prev1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 23,832
Joined: Jun 18 2014
Gold: 6.69
Feb 8 2019 02:34pm
Quote (idjsp @ Feb 8 2019 12:51pm)
Ar helps when I need to clear fast chaos and I need to jab immunes to get the kill done faster, probably also helps to actually physical hit most of mobs I CS or LF

Thanks for the input :P


Quote (idjsp @ Feb 8 2019 10:15pm)
You sure haven't watch the video have you, You said



Facts are : CS is relying on AR, LF isn't, as mentionned and seen in my video.

Only LF isnt affected by AR, CS is.


:huh:


Um no it isnt

Open your character screen and check. The video shows attack rating for his regular attack not CS

This post was edited by kai_jph on Feb 8 2019 02:37pm
Member
Posts: 23,388
Joined: Dec 17 2016
Gold: 77.77
Feb 8 2019 02:37pm
Quote (kai_jph @ Feb 8 2019 03:34pm)
:huh:


Um no it isnt

Open your character screen and check. The video shows attack rating for his regular attack not CS


You can clearly see that CS has no attack rating SHOWN but it is affected as I try to cs mobs with 180k dmg and miss multiple times.

Then i put back on 52k AR and I suddenly hit the PHYSICAL damage nearly every single time.

It being not shown doesn't mean it isn't being affected by it.

Quote (idjsp @ Feb 8 2019 05:51am)
Ar helps when I need to clear fast chaos and I need to jab immunes to get the kill done faster, probably also helps to actually physical hit most of mobs I CS or LF

Thanks for the input :P


Difference is I admit being wrong there, but you wont admit being wrong about CS
And completely ignored the MAIN comment about jabbing.

This post was edited by idjsp on Feb 8 2019 02:40pm
Member
Posts: 23,832
Joined: Jun 18 2014
Gold: 6.69
Feb 8 2019 02:58pm
Quote (idjsp @ Feb 8 2019 10:37pm)
You can clearly see that CS has no attack rating SHOWN but it is affected as I try to cs mobs with 180k dmg and miss multiple times.

Then i put back on 52k AR and I suddenly hit the PHYSICAL damage nearly every single time.

It being not shown doesn't mean it isn't being affected by it.



Difference is I admit being wrong there, but you wont admit being wrong about CS
And completely ignored the MAIN comment about jabbing.


Just curious .

I did some research on CS. There are others that say it goes through an AR check not shown but bolts always get released
My bad there
Member
Posts: 6,823
Joined: Jun 17 2005
Gold: 25.00
Feb 8 2019 04:39pm
Quote (idjsp @ Feb 8 2019 02:27pm)


Should I even address this as a serious attempt at a rebuttal?

Quote (kai_jph @ Feb 8 2019 03:58pm)
Just curious .

I did some research on CS. There are others that say it goes through an AR check not shown but bolts always get released
My bad there


It doesn't go through an AR check, CS has a standard jav attack along with it. As you can see in his video with mass phys damage charms and intentionally low CS he is trying to troll you into believing that the attack rating is giving a boost to CS damage when it is only giving the ability for his standard attack to hit the target with the mass phys damage charms.

This post was edited by Mewi on Feb 8 2019 04:43pm
Member
Posts: 23,832
Joined: Jun 18 2014
Gold: 6.69
Feb 9 2019 01:06pm
Quote (Mewi @ Feb 9 2019 12:39am)
Should I even address this as a serious attempt at a rebuttal?



It doesn't go through an AR check, CS has a standard jav attack along with it. As you can see in his video with mass phys damage charms and intentionally low CS he is trying to troll you into believing that the attack rating is giving a boost to CS damage when it is only giving the ability for his standard attack to hit the target with the mass phys damage charms.


Figured as much. I mentioned that in post 21

If you look at the skill it released bolts on hit not cast
Member
Posts: 23,388
Joined: Dec 17 2016
Gold: 77.77
Feb 9 2019 07:46pm
Quote (Mewi @ Feb 8 2019 05:39pm)
Should I even address this as a serious attempt at a rebuttal?



It doesn't go through an AR check, CS has a standard jav attack along with it. As you can see in his video with mass phys damage charms and intentionally low CS he is trying to troll you into believing that the attack rating is giving a boost to CS damage when it is only giving the ability for his standard attack to hit the target with the mass phys damage charms.


Wrong once again, I am using the same "damage" output from removing or adding these 3 charms. They are just attack rating charms, as shown in the very beginning.

You can clearly see that SOMETIMES i will hit with low ar but I will also hit MOST OF THE TIMES with boosted ar, in this case, 50k AR vs 274 AR...

It is not the case with Lightning fury, which always hit the physical damage, I don't know why it's like that but it is.

The video is clear enough anyways.
Member
Posts: 6,823
Joined: Jun 17 2005
Gold: 25.00
Feb 9 2019 08:27pm
Quote (idjsp @ Feb 9 2019 08:46pm)
Wrong once again, I am using the same "damage" output from removing or adding these 3 charms. They are just attack rating charms, as shown in the very beginning.

You can clearly see that SOMETIMES i will hit with low ar but I will also hit MOST OF THE TIMES with boosted ar, in this case, 50k AR vs 274 AR...

It is not the case with Lightning fury, which always hit the physical damage, I don't know why it's like that but it is.

The video is clear enough anyways.


Member
Posts: 279
Joined: Jan 29 2013
Gold: 24.05
Warn: 20%
Feb 10 2019 09:25am
more ladder garbage
Member
Posts: 4,850
Joined: Feb 10 2019
Gold: 200.00
Feb 24 2019 12:25pm
4/10
Member
Posts: 21,355
Joined: May 20 2003
Gold: 6,586.00
Feb 25 2019 02:44am
dunno if op is trolling or he's legit smart.
Go Back To The Trophy Room Topic List
Prev1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll