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#21
Apr 19 2015 05:44pm
Quote (Unconscious @ Apr 19 2015 11:04pm)
37 Mana is not 40, 58 Life isn't 60, and 19 Str isn't 20. Close, but no cigar.

Mana is useless, the life is awesome, the str is useless.

Enhanced damage is negligible. Not going to notice the slightest difference in damage w/o 19 Str.

FHR is useless as well.

Now, if there were -30 Req, that'd be one of the best SA's ever.

Don't get me wrong, the +200 ED & 58 Life alone put it up there, but I would prefer 200/58/-30 @ 153 Str req & 40/15s or other useful jewels.

The thing is, there's like one or two that I know exist.

The -30 is what really makes SA sexy, not just the life. I'd take -30 over 58 Life if I had a choice.

That's what I'm going to use for my Conc Barb's main setup.

I won't need any more than 164 Str, and will have a shit ton of extra Vit with the -30 on the SA.


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#22
Apr 20 2015 02:00am
Quote (Unconscious @ Apr 19 2015 11:04pm)
37 Mana is not 40, 58 Life isn't 60, and 19 Str isn't 20. Close, but no cigar.

Mana is useless, the life is awesome, the str is useless.

Enhanced damage is negligible. Not going to notice the slightest difference in damage w/o 19 Str.

FHR is useless as well.

Now, if there were -30 Req, that'd be one of the best SA's ever.

Don't get me wrong, the +200 ED & 58 Life alone put it up there, but I would prefer 200/58/-30 @ 153 Str req & 40/15s or other useful jewels.

The thing is, there's like one or two that I know exist.

The -30 is what really makes SA sexy, not just the life. I'd take -30 over 58 Life if I had a choice.

That's what I'm going to use for my Conc Barb's main setup.

I won't need any more than 164 Str, and will have a shit ton of extra Vit with the -30 on the SA.


Not all builds require -30 req. I myself play an sa with -15req only.

This is the best spawn of an aow armor ever, 10/10 for it
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#23
Apr 20 2015 02:32am
Quote (Unconscious @ 20 Apr 2015 00:04)
37 Mana is not 40, 58 Life isn't 60, and 19 Str isn't 20. Close, but no cigar.

Mana is useless, the life is awesome, the str is useless.

Enhanced damage is negligible. Not going to notice the slightest difference in damage w/o 19 Str.

FHR is useless as well.

Now, if there were -30 Req, that'd be one of the best SA's ever.

Don't get me wrong, the +200 ED & 58 Life alone put it up there, but I would prefer 200/58/-30 @ 153 Str req & 40/15s or other useful jewels.

The thing is, there's like one or two that I know exist.

The -30 is what really makes SA sexy, not just the life. I'd take -30 over 58 Life if I had a choice.

That's what I'm going to use for my Conc Barb's main setup.

I won't need any more than 164 Str, and will have a shit ton of extra Vit with the -30 on the SA.


if u know shit, be quit
or ure way --> owning ureself to the fullest


Quote (Arhimond @ 19 Apr 2015 23:03)
basic: eth
prefix: 200ed + 2 sock + 37mana(40)
suffix: rep + 58life(60) + 19 str(20)

lets say stats for sure 10/10



but usebility of them...
big str req, for it need make special build with mass str.
OR use -req jwl in it. if so, then -req and +str mod dont stack (str bug dont work), then potential +str suffix useless, better to have suffix like: 24 fhr / -30req / nova when struck
just my opinion... imho by usebility ~9/10 ur roll, just cus hard will make build with so big str req. (p.s. in my opinion also change mana prefix to 30 fire res)


str bug isnt allowed at aow, also anny kind of pots, so mana is a big + and can be a nice advantage

10 again

This post was edited by Fek on Apr 20 2015 02:40am
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#24
Apr 20 2015 03:56am
Looks godly, but shouldn't it be socked with at least 1 x -15req?
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#25
Apr 20 2015 06:09am
Quote (Lensherr @ Apr 20 2015 09:56am)
Looks godly, but shouldn't it be socked with at least 1 x -15req?[/QUOTE

I will need 1x. 30/60/9/-15% req ,only when hig 08 set up,if not my set up ATM supporting no the sacred(with out str bug off)
Thanks for comments x.
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#26
Apr 20 2015 06:54am
Quote (Fek @ Apr 20 2015 08:32am)
if u know shit, be quit
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str bug isnt allowed at aow, also anny kind of pots, so mana is a big + and can be a nice advantage

10 again


:thumbsup: Well done!!! Teach to those randoms barb players ...few basics!!

Thanks buddy xx
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#27
Apr 20 2015 07:35am
Why are so many idiots agreeing that str is useless? Anyway, this armor is the best I've seen, but items are just silly these days.
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#28
Apr 20 2015 07:50am
Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Apr 20 2015 03:35pm)
Why are so many idiots agreeing that str is useless? Anyway, this armor is the best I've seen, but items are just silly these days.


the strg isnt useless thats true, but imagine if the mana mod owuld had been -30req. All the strg points u had to invest, u had could put into vita, which is obv better.
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#29
Apr 20 2015 07:50am
Quote (breakbeatz2 @ 20 Apr 2015 15:35)
Why are so many idiots agreeing that str is useless? Anyway, this armor is the best I've seen, but items are just silly these days.


because it's only %ED with the 222 str req, and you lose a lot of life, but it's the best sa still.
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#30
Apr 20 2015 07:52am
Quote (Oldwarriors @ 19 Apr 2015 18:44)
:bonk:


/Bonk what? Am I completely aware of the rules featured in AoW? No. Although I will say we could use a little something new regarding a BvB ladder, style wise.

Quote (TAsme @ 20 Apr 2015 03:00)
Not all builds require -30 req. I myself play an sa with -15req only.

This is the best spawn of an aow armor ever, 10/10 for it


I was thinking in terms of melee duels, hence my comment of a Conc build I have in mind w/ a SA setup.

Though I haven't fully thought of all the varying builds in AoW w/ SA, I still see some -Req as being necessary, be it base or via jewel(s). Again, this is just off the top of my head.

Quote (Fek @ 20 Apr 2015 03:32)
if u know shit, be quit
or ure way --> owning ureself to the fullest




str bug isnt allowed at aow, also anny kind of pots, so mana is a big + and can be a nice advantage

10 again


Why are you so defensive? Breathe. You're assumption of "u know shit" is correct. I do know shit, lots of shit. I think about shit all day. I was just in the bathroom a short while ago, and know what happened? Shit.

Oh, and I don't always shit, but when I do, I shit to the fullest.

How can I "be quit"? I suggest you learn how to Alt+F4 more. It's helped me quite a bit.

Not sure how I "own" myself? Are you implying I made a fool of myself? Not entirely.

I was fully accurate in saying that the +Str is a wasted mod.

Now, if you want to get overly technical, yes, it adds damage. Not much though. It won't likely even be noticeable, and it sure as hell will not break the build.

I would still much prefer -Req, or +Dex.

As for the +Mana, now that I know there aren't any pots used, it's very useful.

I knew but a little of AoW before I commented, and not everything inside and out.

Btw, isn't Europe dead? Is it just melee/BvB or AoW these days?


Quote (Oldwarriors @ 20 Apr 2015 07:54)
:thumbsup: Well done!!! Teach to those randoms barb players ...few basics!!

Thanks buddy xx


You act like you're known to everyone. To some of Europe, perhaps. As for my being known on Europe, I would indeed be a "random". Sure enough, I don't play Europe, nor will I. I don't live there.

Just as I was "taught" by your friend, I could teach both of you and any others virtually all there is to know of BvB & Conc builds, and so forth.

As for AoW, the only real difference is change of gear, DR, Poison damage, and the use (if agreed upon) of Mana.

Other than that, it's the same as U.S. West/East BvB, top to bottom.

Those are minor differences, mind you. I'm going to guess that you and yours will jump the gun and deny this, but that's fine. People are predictable.

This game is old, plus, in this very case, we're speaking of WW here. All there is to do is hope you have the right gear setup for your opponent, and just click several times and hope he dies before you.

That's truly all there is to it. Something tells me you'll deny that though.

After a little reading, I see Mana can be and is used @: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72450636&f=147

Edit: Get rekt m8.

This post was edited by Unconscious on Apr 20 2015 07:53am
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