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Jan 10 2012 03:41pm
That's pretty sweet! 9/10
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Jan 10 2012 03:43pm
Please stop spelling source that way -_- sorce is not a word.

Other than that 8/10, nice claw.
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Jan 10 2012 04:27pm
lovely video
lovely claw
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Jan 10 2012 05:11pm
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i dont see how this logic works tbh, what about spirit for bo/cast slot and rep jools? or you have to precast bo/fade/venom etc every duel?

e/ didnt read page 2^^

spaz. is right, 174 is proven in general to be more effective than c/c for a pure trap vs boner since minion stack > block and the way you avoid missiles when not stomping is with frw, and ofc the stun on nek is much harder with the extra frame, oak, fhr, etc

also the chaos/fury for a pure trapper vs neks is a bit joke if the nek is semi decent, in case, you would swap fury only and dtalon eventually to kick ow. Wwsin needs strong venom dmg + phys dmg to outtank a decent nek...

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Jan 10 2012 05:39pm
Quote (reyrol @ 11 Jan 2012 01:11)
9/10

i dont see how this logic works tbh, what about spirit for bo/cast slot and rep jools? or you have to precast bo/fade/venom etc every duel?

e/ didnt read page 2^^

spaz. is right, 174 is proven in general to be more effective than c/c for a pure trap vs boner since minion stack > block and the way you avoid missiles when not stomping is with frw, and ofc the stun on nek is much harder with the extra frame, oak, fhr, etc

also the chaos/fury for a pure trapper vs neks is a bit joke if the nek is semi decent, in case, you would swap fury only and dtalon eventually to kick ow. Wwsin needs strong venom dmg + phys dmg to outtank a decent nek...


well IDK if it's "proven" that 174 is more efficient, but it's definitely a setup you would like to keep "in mind". also it's so easy to reach 33repl with hoto (max) and this helps alot in assa vs nec as it tends to be real long duels.
All honesty then, 174 is hard as fuck to handle. It's alot of oak recast and you gotta keep pressure up and play almost perfect. In all other scenarios, C/C will prolly give you better result. But if you plan to be top edge then 174 is indeed worth to be considered.


And yeah, won't you lose +1 all skill bo for this? Lidless wall xD


my rating is 9,5/10 btw, same as mine^^

This post was edited by SpAz. on Jan 10 2012 05:42pm
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Jan 10 2012 06:08pm
Quote (SpAz. @ 11 Jan 2012 00:39)
well IDK if it's "proven" that 174 is more efficient, but it's definitely a setup you would like to keep "in mind". also it's so easy to reach 33repl with hoto (max) and this helps alot in assa vs nec as it tends to be real long duels.
All honesty then, 174 is hard as fuck to handle. It's alot of oak recast and you gotta keep pressure up and play almost perfect. In all other scenarios, C/C will prolly give you better result. But if you plan to be top edge then 174 is indeed worth to be considered.


And yeah, won't you lose +1 all skill bo for this? Lidless wall xD


my rating is 9,5/10 btw, same as mine^^


well proven might be a little be OP becouse depends on player skills to make it effective since doesnt allow for too much mistakes^^ but at least as good as
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Quote (MoXeR @ Jan 10 2012 09:07pm)
igiving up on clawblock is the last thing that you will want to do vs necs
thats like giving up on the boset for a widowmaker


I can beat virtually every c/c sin as a nec ( on eu ), but there's a 174 fcr sin that I cant beat ( I see the video of that particular sin in action has already been posted ), granted he's amazingly skilled but when he uses c/c I find the duel a lot easier for sure.

So yea, giving up clawblock aint so bad - vs good necs anyway you'll be spear walking a lot too and claw block isnt so good when your moving as I guess you know.

Overall, normal c/c is just pretty bad vs necs as a trapper as its just really hard to do damage to a good nec with. Having said that, i still use c/c vs necs, but I use an OW claw too :)

Quote (MoXeR @ Jan 10 2012 09:07pm)

the only switch that you should have is storm + Hoto and claws have no impact on this setup


In tvt's with barb on team, sins are using hoto + spirit on swap, for 174 fcr + oak to for chasing ability at the end of an fpk ( to chase down a defwhore nec or so, some even use it to fight nec 1v1 at the end too ).

Quote (SpAz. @ Jan 10 2012 09:47pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl-Offflr9U

edit: wrong video


Bad assa in this video

Quote (SpAz. @ Jan 10 2012 09:45pm)
Ask Jason_vorhees about it I guess. You also get +mindblast speed along with tele and extra fireblast dmg ofcourse. + higher fhr breakpoint/oak charges.

and at the bolded part, lol serious? ofcourse a good boner will use spear vs assasin in trap vs assa^^


yes pm Jason_Voorhees :)

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Jan 10 2012 06:23pm
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wuw ,ice one indeed
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