Quote (neooo @ Jul 12 2024 03:16am)

No 1 read this

Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Jul 12 2024 03:24am)

Fools is useless on a bow bud. Cruel is 20x better.

Quote (Synow @ Jul 12 2024 11:16am)

https://i.postimg.cc/76bhzDMr/amp-bow.png

your bow cannot go with fortitude or enigma. becuase 2frame strafe without 15fana aura is impossible and with 15 fana, you need 95ias for 7frame

anyway i also have this bow. i already have tried 7frame with 15fana aura merc build. in my opinion, 8frame with might+concentration aura merc build is better for rare bow zon. 7frame with 15fana aura merc build lost almost 500ed boost than might+concentration merc build.

Xbow is slow but has crazy strafe dps. :D

Quote (Rai_Grottpojken @ Jul 12 2024 02:12pm)

I wouldn't have picked you for a reader, no surprise there :hail:

A wepon can have both cruel and fools which is what my bow does. But i am not surprised you didn't know that...

Edit: Just to enlighten you and anyone else who does not value the Fools mod as they should. Fools mod only competes with the 150%ed/250ar roll (which is if its maxxed rolled) so u can choose from 200-300ed/fools or 300-450ed/1-250ar.
There are very few cases where the non fools are wourth it and the only real cases would prob be 2handed ethereal weapons. For any even ethereal one-hander fools is gonna be more valuable mod than the extra ed/ar roll. Pvp and Pvm no question.
And for the bow scenario when bows cannot even be ethereal that extra ed% does not compete with fools at all imo, even tho guided arrow has no attack rating. The extra 150%ed just wont be impactful enough to justify loosing 1.3k attack rating on strafe and multi.



erm.... You can hit max ias bp on strafe with my bow with enigma equipped and without fana aura for strafe u nn a speedy bow, altho your crossbow cuz such a slow base can never get up at max speed no matter what.

You do have all the bows to show for, but ur statements seems not super well-informed. I dunno if that extra 10kdps weights up for being that slow but i guess i havnt tried so nvr know.

Either way my whole point was just, the great bow you linked had almost same dps output as mine even tho it hit a higher ias bp which kinda speaks to my point. That's why i was honestly just wondering u linked those bows bcuz u found them so much better than mine?
I just felt confused since great bow is practicly same dmg with alot less attack rating. Like neither of those beat my bow, your GMB does tho so there is that :P

Was just trying to point out how little you all seems to know even tho you all feel very confident in judging if an item is trophy wourthy or not. I'm happy to accept if its not but not by likes of you :hug:

Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Jul 12 2024 08:26pm)

Cruel + masters is a double roll. Which is what I mean by Cruel. Aka 400+ ed for a trophy. Just Cruels is 300ed max.

Again if you need paragraphs to justify your item being a trophy, it isn’t a trophy. Trophies speak for themselves.

Quote (Rai_Grottpojken @ Jul 12 2024 02:28pm)

shame editing ur previous statement showing ur lack of knowledge don't matter since ur comment is shown in my comment quoting you :wallbash:

Quote (Rai_Grottpojken @ Jul 11 2024 05:20pm)

.... Eagle Flight is literally way to slow to even feel good imo, even for strafe so unsure when that would be good to use?
The great bow does hit 1 ias bp higher 7fps instead of 8 which is def something, but the dmg increase from it is not that big.
Considering mine has +2Bow skills and Fools which adds 1.5k flat attack rating and it still hits the same breakpoints for strafe which is rly the only skill that rly benefit the most from the fools mod.
Altho the multishot is also enjoying that huge flat attack rating boost.
Imo your bows arent really competing since they dont have the fools mod. And for the extra dmg that only the great bow will add which is like 5k on guided arrow and 4k on multishot when i checked (and that 4-5k is taken from a 70k guided/40k multishot and it is also considering all charms on maxroll are 100% perfect and with merc pride+might auras + amplify up, without all those buffs and non perf charms and gear the difference will be even less. So considering all of this and My Bow actually provides 10k higher strafe dmg then the Great Bow. The Pellet bow does give ~10k higher strafe dmg than mine but its noticably slower. Ive tried strafe with slower bows and it does not feel great. You get locked in animation for way to long for it even to feel good in pvm imo.
Anyway those are two very nice bows for sure, but unsure if u posted them as to prove how bad mine was or something as it is not what the numbers are showing me at all. Similar performance but u loose alot of hitrate, which is actually important both in pvp and pvm for those of you who didnt know.
I think I would still pick mine over your anyday of the week. Ur Great bow wins mostly for Guided Arrow since it is not affected by attack rating. The crossbow is still as slow pvm even with a faith merc u cant raise the speed breakpoints so unsure when you use that?

Edit: Also the differnece between 3.13hits/sec and 3.57hits/sec is 1 extra hit every 7 hits. Considering it is not gonna be amplifying by several crazy speed buffs (which does not exist in d2r pvp for the amazon). It will only ever be 1 extra hit every 7 hits.
It is something, but if the dmg is pretty much the same i dont see that being a make/break for any bowa even in pvp. Have pvp'd quite a bit with her and she is performing rly well. The amp procs alot aswell, especially from strafe. Strafe also being the best bow skill to use for when enemies are in close range imo. Which is also where the fools mod + amp will shine the most.

Quote (PkStart @ Jul 12 2024 05:43pm)

This is worse than faith by far, worse than windforce, worse than the amp cruel bows posted here and fools is worthless on bows.
You will lose to faith bowas before you get a win with this

Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Jul 12 2024 02:44pm)

His paragraph justifies it bud, don’t even play with him!