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Feb 5 2011 01:41pm
Quote (Tboner @ 5 Feb 2011 22:27)
Make a char on west lad and pk me for fg then, ez fg for me ^^

I said 102 because thats the only possible way he could hit 11k ls and get anywhere near close to 5k life (He would need to only have 30fhr bp for one more life gc and use 2* near 60life rings.. even then its not 5k i dont think)

If you knew anything you would know this to be true.. to hit 11k ls with 65fcr you need to use my gear exactly (Unless you used some strange griffons 65fcr build).... and there isnt much room for improving life with my gear.

Sit.


u are horrible spawn without any elemental logic or clue, gtfo really
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Feb 5 2011 01:58pm
Quote (Madmaxio @ Feb 5 2011 11:41am)
u are horrible spawn without any elemental logic or clue, gtfo really


Same back to you, only its my thread, so you need to gtfo, really.
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Feb 5 2011 02:14pm
Quote (Tboner @ Feb 5 2011 10:58pm)
Same back to you, only its my thread, so you need to gtfo, really.


y u mad thou?
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y u mad thou?


dunno, im jus M4D
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Feb 7 2011 09:16pm
You always have such ugly builds to your characters (no offense), but somehow they always end up with phenomenal stats

Your WW damages are a tad low, but you more then make up for them with that unreal LS damage.
The only critique I'd have for you is your DR is relatively low.
On my old hybrid sin, I always loved having the 50dr for any melee, ele druids, etc etc.

Give a setup like this a try, and tell me what you think

Your diadem
2/13+fcr/str/life ammy (You'll never find one as stacked as your current with higher fcr, but the minor drops could be worth it)
trangs
Dungos
Fcr/atr/dex/life/mana/res ring
45lifer (Insted of 12fhr)
5fhr/5res

If you can get a simillar ammy, you'll loose several str points and a fair bit of mana, but you'll gain significant amounts of life (Ring/charms/dungos)
15dr (Caping you out at 50) and only take a minor hit to your mana count (Loosing the soj, as long as you maintain 80+ on the ring)

Another way to do this would be swap one of your 15/15's out for cham, replace both fcr rings and keep your current ammy.

Overall I think you've got a strong build, but I do see some room for improvements on it. Then again, its all opinions in the eye of the player.
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Feb 7 2011 09:37pm
65 fcr blows
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Feb 8 2011 12:53pm
Quote (SexualMayhem @ Feb 7 2011 07:16pm)
You always have such ugly builds to your characters (no offense), but somehow they always end up with phenomenal stats

Your WW damages are a tad low, but you more then make up for them with that unreal LS damage.
The only critique I'd have for you is your DR is relatively low.
On my old hybrid sin, I always loved having the 50dr for any melee, ele druids, etc etc.

Give a setup like this a try, and tell me what you think

Your diadem
2/13+fcr/str/life ammy (You'll never find one as stacked as your current with higher fcr, but the minor drops could be worth it)
trangs
Dungos
Fcr/atr/dex/life/mana/res ring
45lifer (Insted of 12fhr)
5fhr/5res

If you can get a simillar ammy, you'll loose several str points and a fair bit of mana, but you'll gain significant amounts of life (Ring/charms/dungos)
15dr (Caping you out at 50) and only take a minor hit to your mana count (Loosing the soj, as long as you maintain 80+ on the ring)

Another way to do this would be swap one of your 15/15's out for cham, replace both fcr rings and keep your current ammy.

Overall I think you've got a strong build, but I do see some room for improvements on it.  Then again, its all opinions in the eye of the player.

Yea i tried it out on sp.. LS dmg drop is still pretty huge.. and Id have to spend some time finding a really good 2/15+fcr ammy

I may have it in stash as a possible set up but honestly I dont think id use it much, I like the challenge pking BvCs and they are one of the only GM char that really gives me one.. and Im pretty good at dodging wws rather have high ls dmg to still damage TG barbs a lot

And only other chars that give me troubles DR isnt needed

Oh and not that it matters much but even with dungos id only have 44 DR (31+15 minus 2 since losing 2 Fade)

PS thanks for constructive criticism rather then just bashing it


This post was edited by Tboner on Feb 8 2011 12:55pm
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Feb 8 2011 01:47pm
Quote (Scaife @ Feb 7 2011 07:37pm)
65 fcr blows


call me naive, but how the hell is 102 FCR even possible for a **HYBRID!!??
he isn't a pure trapper, 65 FCR is the bp to aim for any hybrid. Max possible on hybrid is 100fcr = 20 hat, 20 ammy, 10 + 10 rings, 20 belt, 20 gloves... ??
pure trapper yay, 102 fcr, sure. not for a hybrid.

As for the DR, id definitly experiment on how to invest to 50%DR. each dr% equates to something like an effective 50 hp. so you are down nearly 1k life!
My gear is far from perfect, so i had to make up for it with less trap dmg and more into fade for max DR%. works great, still 6-8k trap dmg depending on gear switch... while maintaing 50%dr, 65fcr, 82% FHR, etc etc.
in my personal experience i just didnt see much difference in 2-3k more trap dmg (i tried trap charms) in terms of killing effectiveness. since the light dmg range is so large, it was hard to say for sure.
Then again, i play my hybrid like i played my old ghost, im very aggressive, WWing and locking as much as possible, chasing casters constantly. I found in general that 50% dr instead of more trap dmg just worked better for my playstyle...

im curious, perhaps you play a bit more defensive like a trapper, only WWing/locking when they go after you? id understand more trap dmg in that case.
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Quote (Batou079 @ Feb 8 2011 11:47am)
call me naive, but how the hell is 102 FCR even possible for a **HYBRID!!??
he isn't a pure trapper, 65 FCR is the bp to aim for any hybrid.  Max possible on hybrid is 100fcr = 20 hat, 20 ammy, 10 + 10 rings, 20 belt, 20 gloves... ??
pure trapper yay, 102 fcr, sure.  not for a hybrid.

As for the DR, id definitly experiment on how to invest to 50%DR.  each dr% equates to something like an effective 50 hp.  so you are down nearly 1k life!
My gear is far from perfect, so i had to make up for it with less trap dmg and more into fade for max DR%.  works great, still 6-8k trap dmg depending on gear switch... while maintaing 50%dr, 65fcr, 82% FHR, etc etc.
in my personal experience i just didnt see much difference in 2-3k more trap dmg (i tried trap charms) in terms of killing effectiveness.  since the light dmg range is so large, it was hard to say for sure.
Then again, i play my hybrid like i played my old ghost, im very aggressive, WWing and locking as much as possible, chasing casters constantly.  I found in general that 50% dr instead of more trap dmg just worked better for my playstyle...

im curious, perhaps you play a bit more defensive like a trapper, only WWing/locking when they go after you? id understand more trap dmg in that case.


No no, I play very aggressive as well vs most, only ones I dont are phys chars like smiters or BvC (For smiter just lay 5 traps and ww around, they cant really hit you with smite and high trap dmg+WW with 17kar kills them fast) (BvC dodge ww and mb and if they try to wsg get a ww on them and get out fast)

If I can find a 30+ias GT fools then I will put 2 Ber in my helm, maybe add a few more fade and hit 50% DR, but my traps will take a huge hit and the dmg difference is substantial.


This post was edited by Tboner on Feb 8 2011 01:53pm
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Feb 8 2011 02:00pm
ah i see. basic tactics, yay i play the same.

IMO (and since you can afford it! lol) try out the max DR setup, see how much total trap dmg you lose.
fight friends/or regulars that you know their skill level. (ofc phys builds) and get a feel for the setup to see if it is more effective. IMO since BvC is more challenging, id fight that, see if you last longer, etc.

which reminds me, i need more AR so bad! lol, thats my only issue vs BvCs and dins.
i just lost all my FG, so im hoping to MF a vis 2/20. :p
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