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#131
Feb 2 2011 06:41pm
102 fcr trapper with max'ed minblast is a much better all around dueler.
You dont understand some things about sins.Since there are so many things to consider when building one (fcr , ias , resistances , dr , claw block , mindblast level) , balance is the right way to go.You have an unsually high trap damage for a hybrid.But thats about it.Your ww isnt even near strong , even with all that prebuffed venom.You cannot stunlock someone like a ghost , or a 20 mindblast 102 fcr trapper.Your damage reduction is very low..Enough arguments so far ? I can bring some more.

Since thundergods is such an awsome belt vs lightning damage....what are you left with ? Im talking about gm dueling.In bm , many chars can shut down your hybrid completly.
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#132
Feb 2 2011 06:51pm
Hybrids are based on hybrid damage, unbuffed.
Seeing you had to buff + use shopped items to impress people makes me sad.

7/10 for the sin itself
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#133
Feb 2 2011 06:53pm
Quote (quicksand @ Feb 2 2011 04:41pm)
102 fcr trapper with max'ed minblast is a much better all around dueler.
You dont understand some things about sins.Since there are so many things to consider when building one (fcr , ias , resistances , dr , claw block , mindblast level) , balance is the right way to go.You have an unsually high trap damage for a hybrid.But thats about it.Your ww isnt even near strong , even with all that prebuffed venom.You cannot stunlock someone like a ghost , or a 20 mindblast 102 fcr trapper.Your damage reduction is very low..Enough arguments so far ? I can bring some more.

Since thundergods is such an awsome belt vs lightning damage....what are you left with ? Im talking about gm dueling.In bm , many chars can shut down your hybrid completly.


How can you say I dont understand these things when you dont even know me? I understand them probably better then most.. and this character is very effective if played correctly

How can you say I cant stunlock someone like a ghost or 20mb trapper.. you do realize that once someone has swirlies on them amount of damage is irrelevant therefore I can stun the same as either right?

And you do know that level of mb has no effect whatsoever on the amount of stun from one mb right? Higher level simply means more damage output, shadow spams it more often, and the swirlies last longer

I can beat many chars with tgods on.. great thing about such high trap damage is my traps still hurt them quite a bit even if they tgods and I can still ww them.. ofc this char is no good in bmpk thats a given

Quote (Flickr @ Feb 2 2011 04:51pm)
Hybrids are based on hybrid damage, unbuffed.
Seeing you had to buff + use shopped items to impress people makes me sad.

7/10 for the sin itself


and? the unbuffed stats are still good lol... show me better.. Not many sins have it.. they may have better phys ww dmg but then wont be near me in trap/venom dmg

This post was edited by Tboner on Feb 2 2011 06:55pm
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#134
Feb 2 2011 07:28pm
Because you are not a robot to keep the enemy namelock'ed the whole duel.Some get away , you lose the swirlies.Same thing for the shadow , less mb spam.
If u wanna test it...play vs a 200 fcr sorc (the fastest teleporting char in the game) with 1 point mb and 20 points.The difference is huge.
This is pretty irelevant for a hybrid , since most of them have 1 or 2 points in mindblast.But 9 x shadow skillers will sure help.

I think that hybrids (some overrate them really hard) are a weaker version of ghost / trapper.They are so-so , but never 100 % regarding an aspect.

Ps : i play a ghost and cant stop stressing the importance of physical damage (plus all its mods) on assasins.You clearly cannot understand that.If u are glad just to see the wirlwind icon among your skills , then so be it.

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#135
Feb 2 2011 07:34pm
Quote (Tboner @ 31 Dec 2010 08:24)
Show me a hybrid that is then, this is as good as it gets ;)

e/ show me another 4.6k ww 11k ls 17k+ar hybrid id be very impressed


these stats are with prebuff so not that impressive.. i could make better assa with the assa items i got on mule.. ^^

btw, 31 dr?
how much wb?

and low life for a 65 fcr btw.. ^^

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#136
Feb 2 2011 07:35pm
hydra sorc does more dps
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#137
Feb 2 2011 07:48pm
Quote (Madmaxio @ 31 Dec 2010 10:39)
u are really braindead if u think trap based hybsin with low dr, life and 65 fcr will work, nothing more to add.
u should have high tank via life/dr or 102 fcr, u have nothing, deal with it nerd
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/812/original/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif


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#138
Feb 2 2011 07:52pm
Quote (Tboner @ 31 Dec 2010 20:20)
There we go thats constructive critisism but I think you are wrong.

You imply by using highlords that DS will hit all the time? 36/37% isnt very much... Using highlords will only lower my trap and ww dmg greatly and lower my chance to proc OW, worst amulet choice for this build..

remember this is trap based.. I am mostly a trapper WW is jus to deal some extra damage and proc OW



You contradict yourself so much its hilarious, tell me to be more like the hybrid you show me..

which does NOT use highlords, and is also not 102fcr, Dont kno if you realize hitting 102fcr on west means being a full trapper (Griffs 2fcr rings 17+fcr ammy) and jus slapping a chaos on, this is called a SPIDER, not a HYBRID.

stop trying.

e/ AWWW unblock me I want to continue to shit on u via PM...



It works extremely well, make a char on west and see, nothing more to add.

Cant have more then 200-300 less life then the hyb u showed, yes DR is a little low, once I get a GFG claw with 30+ias it will be 50, but honestly dont find I need it.


haha, it was my hybrid assa he linked to..
and i do have hl and griffons for 102 fcr.. just diddent want to post random basic stuff! ^^

and btw, i had 50 dr / 60 wb / and more than 5k life with most setups..
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#139
Feb 2 2011 08:18pm
Quote (xtcsuperman @ Feb 2 2011 05:52pm)
haha, it was my hybrid assa he linked to..
and i do have hl and griffons for 102 fcr.. just diddent want to post random basic stuff! ^^

and btw, i had 50 dr / 60 wb / and more than 5k life with most setups..


even if u used 2 *60ish life fcr rings I dont see how you got that life..

and your trap dmg wasnt near mine was it?

I prefer 65 to 102.. more versatile you dont need 102fcr mb to hold people if you are good at trap placement.. and the AR from visionary is huge
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#140
Feb 2 2011 08:28pm
Quote (Tboner @ Feb 2 2011 09:18pm)
even if u used 2 *60ish life fcr rings I dont see how you got that life..

and your trap dmg wasnt near mine was it?

I prefer 65 to 102.. more versatile you dont need 102fcr mb to hold people if you are good at trap placement.. and the AR from visionary is huge


For a 65 fcr build, why the hell would you use a fcr amulet? get fcr from ring, use highlord's..

9 x shadow gcs should be the inventory.. highest trap damage on a hybrid is nothing to boast about if you don't have max DR or decent resists, claw block, etc..
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