Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2016 02:44pm)

4-15 magic is the go to for a standard build that wants a bit of min over that extra total damage.

20 magic is standard = 20 total dmg

8-14 is a 4/4 perfect mod rare jewel, lvl 9 useable also.

I don't even know of a single one tbh. I knew that a few years back one single one popped up and i remember breakbeatz (iirc) lamenting about how he never thought he'd see the day that one would pop.

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2016 09:29pm)

no one has ever built a character with 8-14 jewels over 20 max, because not enough of them exist on a single realm to do so afaik. Even if they did it would be an insanely expensive endeavor for almost no gain. The extra half point is negligible.

That's his entire point.

Theory craft all you want about what's "better", then go and make an ISO thread and bump it for 10 years and you'll still be 5 jewels short. Unless you're hiding a slew of 4/4 perfect mod jewels on those mules somewhere!

Quote (Fateful @ Apr 21 2016 04:16pm)

thats funny because sepulba told me himself in game that he had a character with those jewels and it wasnt as good other 20maxer builds lol

btw if you pay the right amount to the right person you can get unlimited of those jewels, legit ones too

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2016 03:22pm)

incredibly subjective term there. legit in its loosest context.

but regardless of what's better you're talking about a price difference of 20-30 fg and (just guessing) 2-3k per jewel. A difference of up to 2880 fg PER JEWEL. that is why there will always be a disconnect between theory crafting and in game, what's best on paper may not even be feasible in reality.

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2016 10:22pm)

incredibly subjective term there. legit in its loosest context.

but regardless of what's better you're talking about a price difference of 20-30 fg and (just guessing) 2-3k per jewel. A difference of up to 2880 fg PER JEWEL. that is why there will always be a disconnect between theory crafting and in game, what's best on paper may not even be feasible in reality.

Quote (Avenged123 @ Apr 21 2016 04:26pm)

If rolled items aren't legit then none of the items posted in the past 2-3 years are legit.

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 21 2016 10:31pm)

And i think there's a legit argument to be made for that, i don't share that view but the logic works out just fine. That's why i say its subjective, people have different ideas about what is legit. Some people think dupes should be allowed in lld, others dont. But i know personally of quite a few friends who straight up quit because of rolling and hybrids. The game no longer interested them.

Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Apr 2016 18:31)

And i think there's a legit argument to be made for that, i don't share that view but the logic works out just fine. That's why i say its subjective, people have different ideas about what is legit. Some people think dupes should be allowed in lld, others dont. But i know personally of quite a few friends who straight up quit because of rolling and hybrids. The game no longer interested them.

Quote (Fateful @ 21 Apr 2016 16:40)

those friends can always whine and play ladder, d2 is what d2 is nowadays, whats the next thing to whine about? oh he has more bots then me so I don't think its fair, or oh he's spent more FG on that character I don't think its fair that he beats me

Quote (excellence @ 21 Apr 2016 16:49)

who quit cuz of hybrids lol, rather silly reason imo :D