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#101
Jul 18 2013 07:58am
Quote (M4ntis @ Jul 18 2013 08:43am)
and? if you bug your war fist your chaos will hit first = fail :)

I'm sorry if u know only the basics from this guide ^_^


What if I told you that which claw hitting first really makes no difference in the grand scheme of things because you SHOULD be getting around 7k+ AR on chaos side ANYWAY and that will hit most people just fine... WSM purely for the purpose of having bad chaos AR and decent fool's ar is ironically a "foolish" way of thinking... might as well make a spider with that little ww damage

It is a real shame that you are on EU, else I would have loved to duel you. The pure fact that you argue against this proves that you have not tried and tested it against a sin of equal caliber in terms of gear as yourself (but different build). Anyone can slam randoms using ANY gear... that doenst prove anything

BTW for hybrid...

2/20/vis/20str or dex/60life/2soc BerBer
Highlords (or fcr ammy)
Trangs
Enigma
Arach (or bbelt)
Runic chaos 3/3/3
Warfist Fools 2/3/1 with eth repair
Dancers
10fcr/120ar/15dex/90Mana/40Life/Res FCR Ring
Raven

Enough Shadows to hit 50% DR
Rest 32020s or 36/20s and 20/5s accordingly for res
20/20/10 anni
20/20/25 torch

STR: 0
DEX: ~50-60pts (for AR + Damage)
VITA: Rest
ENERGY: 0

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 18 2013 08:04am
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#102
Jul 18 2013 08:18am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 18 Jul 2013 14:58)
... might as well make a spider with that little ww damage


you make it looks as if that was a bad idea
to me this item appears as if it was made for the spider style
but to each his own I guess

for spider:

griffon jooled 30ed/60ar/9dex/4repl
dancers
tg
2x fcr/ar/str/repl/mana/@
eni
ammy 2/20/dex/repl
chaos suw 3ls/3mb/3wb

9x 45l sks trap
10x 20/5

guide: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=20465096&f=87

This post was edited by MoXeR on Jul 18 2013 08:19am
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#103
Jul 18 2013 08:29am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 18 Jul 2013 15:58)
What if I told you that which claw hitting first really makes no difference in the grand scheme of things because you SHOULD be getting around 7k+ AR on chaos side ANYWAY and that will hit most people just fine... WSM purely for the purpose of having bad chaos AR and decent fool's ar is ironically a "foolish" way of thinking... might as well make a spider with that little ww damage

It is a real shame that you are on EU, else I would have loved to duel you. The pure fact that you argue against this proves that you have not tried and tested it against a sin of equal caliber in terms of gear as yourself (but different build). Anyone can slam randoms using ANY gear... that doenst prove anything

BTW for hybrid...

2/20/vis/20str or dex/60life/2soc BerBer
Highlords (or fcr ammy)
Trangs
Enigma
Arach (or bbelt)
Runic chaos 3/3/3
Warfist Fools 2/3/1 with eth repair
Dancers
10fcr/120ar/15dex/90Mana/40Life/Res FCR Ring
Raven

Enough Shadows to hit 50% DR
Rest 32020s or 36/20s and 20/5s accordingly for res
20/20/10 anni
20/20/25 torch

STR: 0
DEX: ~50-60pts (for AR + Damage)
VITA: Rest
ENERGY: 0


should just listen to this guy cuz he has been hit by da light of a thousand suns
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#104
Jul 18 2013 08:36am
lol
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#105
Jul 18 2013 08:40am
Quote (Squick @ Jul 18 2013 10:29am)
should just listen to this guy cuz he has been hit by da light of a thousand suns


dis.... still have sunburns
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#106
Jul 18 2013 08:49am
Quote (MoXeR @ 18 Jul 2013 15:18)
you make it looks as if that was a bad idea
to me this item appears as if it was made for the spider style
but to each his own I guess

for spider:

griffon jooled 30ed/60ar/9dex/4repl
dancers
tg
2x fcr/ar/str/repl/mana/@
eni
ammy 2/20/dex/repl
chaos suw 3ls/3mb/3wb

9x 45l sks trap
10x 20/5

guide: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=20465096&f=87


tg > all
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#107
Jul 18 2013 08:52am
Quote (M4ntis @ 18 Jul 2013 06:11)
runic chaos lacks some dmg against the suw

suw: 45.5 average dmg + runic: 34 average dmg = 79,5
runic: 34 average dmg + warf: 48,5 average dmg = 82,5
for sure it gets more dmg, cause its war fist

as i said
you will need with this setup much ias

40ias by the war fist and 10 by the bb

still 25ias left

you have to decide:
- no 64 fcr breakpoint (witch gives u a rly bad movability)
or
- 2x 15ias add jools at your helm, so you are unable to reach fhr breakpoints and u lack of resi and survivability

anyway you lose your flexibility and if my sin stun lock you 1time your dead

if you ww through me 1 time, i won't be dead for sure cause your 2more average dmg isn't such a big deal for your lose

i theory crafted this a lot in the last 2 month and my result was feral 40ias > runic 20ias > rest

and at least, when I'm right there isn't a feral claw with 40ias and this stats out there


that, is the most dumb calculation ive ever seen in jsp

theorycrafting lmao

This post was edited by reyrol on Jul 18 2013 08:53am
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#108
Jul 18 2013 09:11am
Quote (reyrol @ Jul 18 2013 10:52am)
that, is the most dumb calculation ive ever seen in jsp

theorycrafting lmao


i like oranges
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#109
Jul 18 2013 10:06am
i can count to potato
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#110
Jul 18 2013 10:40am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 18 2013 06:58am)
It is a real shame that you are on EU, else I would have loved to duel you. The pure fact that you argue against this proves that you have not tried and tested it against a sin of equal caliber in terms of gear as yourself (but different build). Anyone can slam randoms using ANY gear... that doenst prove anything


OP if you want I can duel you on eu ^^

and second the fact ghost >> hybsin. GLORIOUS GHOSTSIN MASTER RACE.

even if it's not best for ghost, almost useless for ghost vs ghost, i still love the claw.

Quote (MoXeR @ Jul 18 2013 07:18am)


griffon jooled 30ed/60ar/9dex/4repl
tg



wait, what? :huh:

This post was edited by nuvo on Jul 18 2013 10:42am
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