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Jan 12 2011 04:39pm
Quote (gobb @ Jan 11 2011 12:43am)
^_^ ty dude

Yea, goomshill can throw calculations out there, but considering he doesn't have a lld barb i'm not sure what he is writing these essays for. Actually, i've never seen him in a duel game at all now that I think about it...


I've been playing lld bvc's much longer than you


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With short ww's or clips You do not benefit from offhand ias, since those are usually all the hits you get, most people use honor offhand. The rep, skill, ds, and extra dmg are to hard to ignore.


rep & skill- yes.
ds and extra damage- no
those only apply to hits by the secondary weapon, not your primary, and your secondary doesn't strike on frame #4 so the speed really matters for it- more than it does for the primary
hell if you had something better than an honor you'd probably be better off switching the order of your weapons around unless you're concing people or some shit, hitting with the higher damage lower speed weapon first.
but that probably deals more damage than honor anyway

because right now you're probably swinging at 4/8/14/18/24 instead of 4/8/12/16/20/24 (if in range, else maybe 4/8/14/20/26 or summat)

since the weapon speed is used for the next hit after the first with your secondary, you can only really 'cheat' it in to clip someone if the ww is between 8-11 frames in length while in radius with no drawback- very improbable.


in the matchups you'd want dual wield over shield, yeah you're probably better off with an honor naga than a second skull gnash-esque bp hitter due to the replenish- thats true
but not due to clipping and the first hit checks, that really only cheats for the primary weapon (good reasoning for massive slow 2 handers or battle hammer crap on primary, however)
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Jan 12 2011 05:11pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 12 2011 03:39pm)
I've been playing lld bvc's much longer than you




rep & skill- yes.
ds and extra damage- no
those only apply to hits by the secondary weapon, not your primary, and your secondary doesn't strike on frame #4 so the speed really matters for it- more than it does for the primary
hell if you had something better than an honor you'd probably be better off switching the order of your weapons around unless you're concing people or some shit, hitting with the higher damage lower speed weapon first.
but that probably deals more damage than honor anyway

because right now you're probably swinging at 4/8/14/18/24 instead of 4/8/12/16/20/24 (if in range, else maybe 4/8/14/20/26 or summat)

since the weapon speed is used for the next hit after the first with your secondary, you can only really 'cheat' it in to clip someone if the ww is between 8-11 frames in length while in radius with no drawback- very improbable.


in the matchups you'd want dual wield over shield, yeah you're probably better off with an honor naga than a second skull gnash-esque bp hitter due to the replenish- thats true
but not due to clipping and the first hit checks, that really only cheats for the primary weapon (good reasoning for massive slow 2 handers or battle hammer crap on primary, however)


You're referring to the fake bvc you created with hero editor? -_-

I was referring to ds and extra dmg on honor compared to robo on the secondary.

I have tried both and this is the setup I prefer.With Gnash on primary the first 2 checks are at 4fpa, If you do short ww's and tri whirls are checks are at 4fpa.
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Jan 13 2011 01:05am
SGnash damage is on god-mode.

Glad that axe found such a good home!
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Jan 13 2011 02:36am
Really nice shit will be looking forward when you upgraded it to 100%

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Jan 13 2011 03:08am
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Really nice shit will be looking forward when you upgraded it to 100%

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Me too ^_^
Quote (GTL @ Jan 13 2011 12:05am)
SGnash damage is on god-mode.

Glad that axe found such a good home!


Yar, now I just need one more ^^
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Jan 13 2011 03:22am
Quote (gobb @ Jan 13 2011 09:08am)
Me too ^_^

Yar, now I just need one more ^^


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Jan 13 2011 03:31am
nice staff for lvling :D
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Jan 13 2011 03:35am
Quote (Hacked @ Jan 13 2011 02:22am)
make your sig bigger


Not possible


Quote (Keisper @ Jan 13 2011 02:31am)
nice staff for lvling :D
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Wut? :wacko:

This post was edited by gobb on Jan 13 2011 03:36am
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