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Jul 27 2022 05:49am
needs 2 sockets, more ias, more ed, better adds.
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Quote (SanduLungu @ 27 Jul 2022 13:49)
needs 2 sockets, more ias, more ed, better adds.


Isnt d2r attack speed especialy fury now getting ias from all items now not only weapon?

I heard this if its true this is More Trash than in original diablo2 game such charsi phase blade for sure.
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Jul 27 2022 12:28pm
Quote (Hamm @ Jul 27 2022 04:52am)
Isnt d2r attack speed especialy fury now getting ias from all items now not only weapon?

I heard this if its true this is More Trash than in original diablo2 game such charsi phase blade for sure.


You do understand that this is maybe one of four known eth fools repair weapons on D2R that can hit the fastest IAS breakpoint for wolf druids (3fpa)? There's like three 20-30 IAS 270+ ED eth fools PBs and they all have consistently been sold and resold for 20-25K because they are valuable and people recognize their utility and usefulness - so that's Charsi to you, my friend? Consider this one (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) which, yes, has admittedly better stats, but easily went for 35K fg without much hassle. People want a 3 frame eth fools weapon and on D2R (at least so far), pbs have been the only way to get there. There is literally *one* known eth rep fools weap that can easily reach 3 frame on Ladder that is not a phase blade.

The amount of misinformation in this subforum is really mind boggling. It scares me lol. It's not a coincidence that half the people giving bad rating inevitably reference LoD in one way or another. This isn't LoD - there are no imports, bots get banned every second so the supply of GG items is next to nothing, the standards have changed, and LoD should not be used as a comparator for D2R items, period. This is basically the functional equivalent of one of LoD's 2 socket 40 ias 250 ED phaseblades at this point, and we have to accept we are very unlikely to ever see one of those in this game's lifespan (which is probably ~5 years max). Didn't it take like a minimum of 5-10 years with MASS largely uninterrupted botting for this to spawn? (Actually, pretty sure crazy-ivan was the dude known for collecting imports, so it's either that or this is an import - which is impossible to get in D2R!)



But let's continue to use it as the baseline comparator, sure.

This post was edited by Koston on Jul 27 2022 12:37pm
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Quote (Koston @ Jul 27 2022 01:28pm)
You do understand that this is maybe one of four known eth fools repair weapons on D2R that can hit the fastest IAS breakpoint for wolf druids (3fpa)? There's like three 20-30 IAS 270+ ED eth fools PBs and they all have consistently been sold and resold for 20-25K because they are valuable and people recognize their utility and usefulness - so that's Charsi to you, my friend? Consider this one (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) which, yes, has admittedly better stats, but easily went for 35K fg without much hassle. People want a 3 frame eth fools weapon and on D2R (at least so far), pbs have been the only way to get there. There is literally *one* known eth rep fools weap that can easily reach 3 frame on Ladder that is not a phase blade.

The amount of misinformation in this subforum is really mind boggling. It scares me lol. It's not a coincidence that half the people giving bad rating inevitably reference LoD in one way or another. This isn't LoD - there are no imports, bots get banned every second so the supply of GG items is next to nothing, the standards have changed, and LoD should not be used as a comparator for D2R items, period. This is basically the functional equivalent of one of LoD's 2 socket 40 ias 250 ED phaseblades at this point, and we have to accept we are very unlikely to ever see one of those in this game's lifespan (which is probably ~5 years max). Didn't it take like a minimum of 5-10 years with MASS largely uninterrupted botting for this to spawn? (Actually, pretty sure crazy-ivan was the dude known for collecting imports, so it's either that or this is an import - which is impossible to get in D2R!)

https://i.imgur.com/NoWSEwx.jpg

But let's continue to use it as the baseline comparator, sure.



A fury using ebotd zerker is better than a fury using this.

If a Runeword or unique is better than your rare, your rare isn’t a trophy.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Jul 27 2022 12:55pm
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Jul 27 2022 01:15pm
Quote (Koston @ 27 Jul 2022 20:28)
You do understand that this is maybe one of four known eth fools repair weapons on D2R that can hit the fastest IAS breakpoint for wolf druids (3fpa)? There's like three 20-30 IAS 270+ ED eth fools PBs and they all have consistently been sold and resold for 20-25K because they are valuable and people recognize their utility and usefulness - so that's Charsi to you, my friend? Consider this one (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) which, yes, has admittedly better stats, but easily went for 35K fg without much hassle. People want a 3 frame eth fools weapon and on D2R (at least so far), pbs have been the only way to get there. There is literally *one* known eth rep fools weap that can easily reach 3 frame on Ladder that is not a phase blade.

The amount of misinformation in this subforum is really mind boggling. It scares me lol. It's not a coincidence that half the people giving bad rating inevitably reference LoD in one way or another. This isn't LoD - there are no imports, bots get banned every second so the supply of GG items is next to nothing, the standards have changed, and LoD should not be used as a comparator for D2R items, period. This is basically the functional equivalent of one of LoD's 2 socket 40 ias 250 ED phaseblades at this point, and we have to accept we are very unlikely to ever see one of those in this game's lifespan (which is probably ~5 years max). Didn't it take like a minimum of 5-10 years with MASS largely uninterrupted botting for this to spawn? (Actually, pretty sure crazy-ivan was the dude known for collecting imports, so it's either that or this is an import - which is impossible to get in D2R!)

https://i.imgur.com/NoWSEwx.jpg

But let's continue to use it as the baseline comparator, sure.


In d2r start people posted in here Trophy Room
Enigma breast plate.
As One of four existed in game tryed to convince people its Trophy room material.
This rare 20ias 1socket (0socket in pic) lowest melee damage weapon base is continue this tradition.


Charsi item 100% garbage damage weapon for any melee.
Missing 2sox 40ias forever.

Ethereal Breath Of The Dying berserker axe >>>

Grief Phase Blade if not banned >>>




If you or anyone paid more than 50fg for this rare phase blade, or the price of random ebotd if is more than 50fg i dont know price, you said 30k fgs lol or anything?
Than you guys are beaten by random Botd Baxe fury for 100%
And that means you was just Fooled by garbage damage fool weapon and by the seller,
you can ask anyone who do melee.

Dont try to tell me any respond about i dont know what talking and ias etc. lol
Because im telling you thing what everyone see very easy and you can see it.
And dont try to argue to me with prices sold 30k fgs etc. for garbage stats items in d2r when they are beaten by the common runeword because they are missing important Must stats wich are 40% ias mod and 2 sockets mod atleast, to be Used in a duel.

This weapon is totally useless,
to be any usefull over botd or grief if grief is banned in duels, it need as the MUST 2sox and 40ias this Phase Blade base, else PB is total garbage base melee forever and is beaten by Ebotd zerker.




Ps/
Armageddon Bite in picture from Original game
is only good because it is 40%iad base and 2sockets.
Thats why is better than Ebotd Zerker in original diablo2.
Because Fury Attack gets Attack Speed only from Weapon
And so it hit maximum attack speed for fury in original diablo2. Every fury who didnt get this stats phase blade,
duels with Ebotd Zerker when griefs are banned.
And so you can play any diablo2 version man....

What i see is you guys making fools from newbies trying to convince them to buy charsi item vs tousands of forum gold because item have "sexy" stats, but you dont tell them Ethereal Breath of the Dying is alot better and they win duel with Ebotd. This tactics i remember back in diablo2 2011 when i started trade in this forums, rare items completely garbage (5bo helmets but without vision mod, rare phase blades but 1sockets etc.) were presented as something gz" allways with word GZ
But after that ppl realized are total garbages..

This post was edited by Hamm on Jul 27 2022 01:44pm
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Quote (Koston @ 27 Jul 2022 20:28)
You do understand that this is maybe one of four known eth fools repair weapons on D2R that can hit the fastest IAS breakpoint for wolf druids (3fpa)? There's like three 20-30 IAS 270+ ED eth fools PBs and they all have consistently been sold and resold for 20-25K because they are valuable and people recognize their utility and usefulness - so that's Charsi to you, my friend? Consider this one (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) which, yes, has admittedly better stats, but easily went for 35K fg without much hassle. People want a 3 frame eth fools weapon and on D2R (at least so far), pbs have been the only way to get there. There is literally *one* known eth rep fools weap that can easily reach 3 frame on Ladder that is not a phase blade.

The amount of misinformation in this subforum is really mind boggling. It scares me lol. It's not a coincidence that half the people giving bad rating inevitably reference LoD in one way or another. This isn't LoD - there are no imports, bots get banned every second so the supply of GG items is next to nothing, the standards have changed, and LoD should not be used as a comparator for D2R items, period. This is basically the functional equivalent of one of LoD's 2 socket 40 ias 250 ED phaseblades at this point, and we have to accept we are very unlikely to ever see one of those in this game's lifespan (which is probably ~5 years max). Didn't it take like a minimum of 5-10 years with MASS largely uninterrupted botting for this to spawn? (Actually, pretty sure crazy-ivan was the dude known for collecting imports, so it's either that or this is an import - which is impossible to get in D2R!)

https://i.imgur.com/NoWSEwx.jpg

But let's continue to use it as the baseline comparator, sure.


I think you are trying to misinform people in d2r about game that was and still is already played 22 years now.
You misinform them about garbage rare items with 20ias and 1socket roll for sure.

Instead you tell them to use Ebotd Zerker (with angelics for 35.000+defense opponent) that this Zerker is making more damage and you start to attack opponent from higher range so your attack starts as the first hitting one and with higher damage in face to face straight walking duels.

Thats bad.

This post was edited by Hamm on Jul 27 2022 01:54pm
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I have no idea what either person above me is trying to say but you CANNOT use Ebotdz vs. any zealots in gm melee duels as a wolf druid, it's been tried and failed multiple times in the past several months and wolf druids are now unable to beat zealots unless they have an eth repair fools weapon. The people posting here are not familiar with the updates to wolf druids or how they currently work in GM melee vs. paladins and misinformation will continue to spread as a result of that. Nothing you can do.

e/ Using EBOTDZ with Angelics is absolute crap - you're getting rid of Highlords and two melee rings and a jewel in your SS or helm to Cham it and sacrificing EVERYTHING to use an ebotdz on a character that will die to a good zealot before you can get the necessary number of hits off.

The 2 sock 40 ias 300 ed eth fools PB you describe is hypothetical, does not exist in D2R, and likely never will due to how consistently and strictly Blizzard is banning bots and the inevitably shorter lifespan of this game. All you are doing is comparing this weapon to a hypothetical item that will likely not exist in this game and I strongly disagree with that. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. If you continue to use hypothetical items that don't exist here and only existed in LoD as an import or 10 years of botting as the baseline to compare EVERYTHING TO, this item is crap. If you look at D2R as an independent entity from LoD that does not have the same exploits/hacks (i.e., imports) and the same degree of botting, this item is a trophy (at least for the GM melee community). You saying that this item is Charsi when it and others like it consistently go for 20k-25k is inherently incorrect - why are you telling someone to Charsi something that people find value in (up to 25k) that is USEFUL in gm melee duels? You think the people buying these are clueless losers unfamiliar with EBOTD? Tier1 who just bought a similar pb for 35k fg (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) has more melee knowledge than most people here combined, has probably 2 415 ED EBOTDs in different bases, does NOT spend fg frivolously, and still spent 35k on that pb. But I guess we are all wrong and you are right.

A good wolf druid is no longer too expensive to make. Go make one, equip a 414-415 ebotd, and go up against any of the top zealots on D2R - they're not hard to find, check out either of the two GM melee ladders in legit dueling subforum and PM them asking for a duel. I'm sure they'll be happy to absolutely destroy you with your EBOTD. You think people haven't tested this? I have a rare dagger that beats EBOTD in every way on paper and still doesn't come close to beating a well geared paladin.


Edit/ I'd like to clarify that EBOTD is still basically BiS for fury vs. fury and is extremely valuable in that scenario, but NOT for wolf druid vs. zeal where this fools PB would really shine.

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Quote (Koston @ Jul 27 2022 03:05pm)
I have no idea what either person above me is trying to say but you CANNOT use Ebotdz vs. any zealots in gm melee duels as a wolf druid, it's been tried and failed multiple times in the past several months and wolf druids are now unable to beat zealots unless they have an eth repair fools weapon. The people posting here are not familiar with the updates to wolf druids or how they currently work in GM melee vs. paladins and misinformation will continue to spread as a result of that. Nothing you can do.

e/ Using EBOTDZ with Angelics is absolute crap - you're getting rid of Highlords and two melee rings and a jewel in your SS or helm to Cham it and sacrificing EVERYTHING to use an ebotdz on a character that will die to a good zealot before you can get the necessary number of hits off.

The 2 sock 40 ias 300 ed eth fools PB you describe is hypothetical, does not exist in D2R, and likely never will due to how consistently and strictly Blizzard is banning bots and the inevitably shorter lifespan of this game. All you are doing is comparing this weapon to a hypothetical item that will likely not exist in this game and I strongly disagree with that. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. If you continue to use hypothetical items that don't exist here and only existed in LoD as an import or 10 years of botting as the baseline to compare EVERYTHING TO, this item is crap. If you look at D2R as an independent entity from LoD that does not have the same exploits/hacks (i.e., imports) and the same degree of botting, this item is a trophy (at least for the GM melee community). You saying that this item is Charsi when it and others like it consistently go for 20k-25k is inherently incorrect - why are you telling someone to Charsi something that people find value in (up to 25k) that is USEFUL in gm melee duels? You think the people buying these are clueless losers unfamiliar with EBOTD? Tier1 who just bought a similar pb for 35k fg (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) has more melee knowledge than most people here combined, has probably 2 415 ED EBOTDs in different bases, does NOT spend fg frivolously, and still spent 35k on that pb. But I guess we are all wrong and you are right.

A good wolf druid is no longer too expensive to make. Go make one, equip a 414-415 ebotd, and go up against any of the top zealots on D2R - they're not hard to find, check out either of the two GM melee ladders in legit dueling subforum and PM them asking for a duel. I'm sure they'll be happy to absolutely destroy you with your EBOTD. You think people haven't tested this? I have a rare dagger that beats EBOTD in every way on paper and still doesn't come close to beating a well geared paladin.


Edit/ I'd like to clarify that EBOTD is still basically BiS for fury vs. fury and is extremely valuable in that scenario, but NOT for wolf druid vs. zeal where this fools PB would really shine.



So your idea is to use a significantly lower damage weapon so you can hit basically the same AR, but have 37% DS.

Double a low numbers doesnt add much


Ebotdz > this

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Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jul 27 2022 11:45pm)
So your idea is to use a significantly lower damage weapon so you can hit basically the same AR, but have 37% DS.

Double a low numbers doesnt add much


Ebotdz > this


Quote (Koston @ Jul 27 2022 11:05pm)
I have no idea what either person above me is trying to say but you CANNOT use Ebotdz vs. any zealots in gm melee duels as a wolf druid, it's been tried and failed multiple times in the past several months and wolf druids are now unable to beat zealots unless they have an eth repair fools weapon. The people posting here are not familiar with the updates to wolf druids or how they currently work in GM melee vs. paladins and misinformation will continue to spread as a result of that. Nothing you can do.

e/ Using EBOTDZ with Angelics is absolute crap - you're getting rid of Highlords and two melee rings and a jewel in your SS or helm to Cham it and sacrificing EVERYTHING to use an ebotdz on a character that will die to a good zealot before you can get the necessary number of hits off.

The 2 sock 40 ias 300 ed eth fools PB you describe is hypothetical, does not exist in D2R, and likely never will due to how consistently and strictly Blizzard is banning bots and the inevitably shorter lifespan of this game. All you are doing is comparing this weapon to a hypothetical item that will likely not exist in this game and I strongly disagree with that. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. If you continue to use hypothetical items that don't exist here and only existed in LoD as an import or 10 years of botting as the baseline to compare EVERYTHING TO, this item is crap. If you look at D2R as an independent entity from LoD that does not have the same exploits/hacks (i.e., imports) and the same degree of botting, this item is a trophy (at least for the GM melee community). You saying that this item is Charsi when it and others like it consistently go for 20k-25k is inherently incorrect - why are you telling someone to Charsi something that people find value in (up to 25k) that is USEFUL in gm melee duels? You think the people buying these are clueless losers unfamiliar with EBOTD? Tier1 who just bought a similar pb for 35k fg (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95899886&f=268&p=621717784#p621717784) has more melee knowledge than most people here combined, has probably 2 415 ED EBOTDs in different bases, does NOT spend fg frivolously, and still spent 35k on that pb. But I guess we are all wrong and you are right.

A good wolf druid is no longer too expensive to make. Go make one, equip a 414-415 ebotd, and go up against any of the top zealots on D2R - they're not hard to find, check out either of the two GM melee ladders in legit dueling subforum and PM them asking for a duel. I'm sure they'll be happy to absolutely destroy you with your EBOTD. You think people haven't tested this? I have a rare dagger that beats EBOTD in every way on paper and still doesn't come close to beating a well geared paladin.


Edit/ I'd like to clarify that EBOTD is still basically BiS for fury vs. fury and is extremely valuable in that scenario, but NOT for wolf druid vs. zeal where this fools PB would really shine.




Nice story my friend , but still ebotd / angelic will rip off the mediocore fools pb with mediocore rings / hl amu build.

About melee knowledge this isn't rocket science it's simple maths where better stats win.

Peace

This post was edited by Dikata on Jul 27 2022 02:55pm
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