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Nice claw!
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Wow nice I want to see this with some jewels in it
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very sexy indeed
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Mar 2 2016 01:25pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Mar 2 2016 01:07pm)
Ghosts are caster killers. The only fun duel you need the ar for is hdins.

Unless you want to bvb with it, the fools isn't a huge deal.





with cruel you get avg 9k-10k ar if you use 20-36s scs
dueling a 4k def char would have 2.25 ratio, aka 67% chance to hit
vs fools with 20k ar, 5 ratio = 83% chance to hit
vs i.e a 2k def char (mb nec i.e) u'd get 90% with fools, 83% with cruel. not a big diff but having the most chance to hit makes dude not able to get away

in GvG all you want is damage really, cause you kill each others in a few hits. so cruel would be the best option.
to me fools vs all is the way to go, cruel vs 1.5k def and lower/gvg


btw this is a 10/10 claw, nvr seen a better cruel than doom thirst


This post was edited by CROCHA on Mar 2 2016 01:26pm
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Quote (CROCHA @ Mar 2 2016 02:25pm)
http://i.imgur.com/O0X8ZAf.png


with cruel you get avg 9k-10k ar if you use 20-36s scs
dueling a 4k def char would have 2.25 ratio, aka 67% chance to hit
vs fools with 20k ar, 5 ratio = 83% chance to hit
vs i.e a 2k def char (mb nec i.e) u'd get 90% with fools, 83% with cruel. not a big diff but having the most chance to hit makes dude not able to get away

in GvG all you want is damage really, cause you kill each others in a few hits. so cruel would be the best option.
to me fools vs all is the way to go, cruel vs 1.5k def and lower/gvg

btw this is a 10/10 claw, nvr seen a better cruel than doom thirst


this is good but..

On the chance that you DO actually hit.. with a fools your average damage will be substantially less, better pray for all MAX dmg hits against a paladin, Fools doesnt work so good like this, because you have a whole bunch of MIN dmg hits and it wont do much to a din
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Quote (EvO-Endo @ Mar 2 2016 02:28pm)
this is good but..

On the chance that you DO actually hit.. with a fools your average damage will be substantially less, better pray for all MAX dmg hits against a paladin, Fools doesnt work so good like this, because you have a whole bunch of MIN dmg hits and it wont do much to a din


fools is ESP used for dins/barbs
dins have 15k def min
20/15 = 57%
with 10k/15 = 35%

I personnaly use a fools, and few hits rek a din. It hits almost all the time too
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Quote (CROCHA @ Mar 2 2016 03:25pm)
http://i.imgur.com/O0X8ZAf.png


with cruel you get avg 9k-10k ar if you use 20-36s scs
dueling a 4k def char would have 2.25 ratio, aka 67% chance to hit
vs fools with 20k ar, 5 ratio = 83% chance to hit
vs i.e a 2k def char (mb nec i.e) u'd get 90% with fools, 83% with cruel. not a big diff but having the most chance to hit makes dude not able to get away

in GvG all you want is damage really, cause you kill each others in a few hits. so cruel would be the best option.
to me fools vs all is the way to go, cruel vs 1.5k def and lower/gvg

btw this is a 10/10 claw, nvr seen a better cruel than doom thirst


lol this picture. just play this gfx means notin
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http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73685273&f=103

look at Oni cruel claw.. Doom Thirst 2x LOL
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Quote (Shottass @ Mar 2 2016 02:31pm)
lol this picture. just play this gfx means notin


???? it's actually the real change to hit chart lmao (considering both chars are the same level)

if you wanna do the math

Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)

Quote (Shottass @ Mar 2 2016 02:32pm)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73685273&f=103

look at Oni cruel claw.. Doom Thirst 2x LOL


yea this claw exists in warfist/feral form, on many realms. and there are many copies of it too


This post was edited by CROCHA on Mar 2 2016 01:35pm
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Quote (CROCHA @ 2 Mar 2016 20:34)
???? it's actually the real change to hit chart lmao (considering both chars are the same level)

if you wanna do the math

Chance to Hit % = 100 x AR / (AR + DR) x 2 x Alvl / (Alvl + Dlvl)



yea this claw exists in warfist/feral form, on many realms. and there are many copies of it too



you forgot runic :rolleyes:
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