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Feb 9 2015 07:43pm
Quote (PuA @ 10 Feb 2015 03:42)
I prefer the slower IAS that hits harder/ has a higher chance to one hit someone on impact (I've one hit hackers many times with a 11k phys + crit).

No good duelist will allow you to chain him with multiple rounds of Matris, I use an enigma on my zon most of the time so that can explain to you my play style, I like to lead people into my jav, if that doesn't kill them in one hit then I tele a screen or two away and fire a small round of arrows, when they tele towards me I tele towards them slightly to the top (Hard to explain). Works every time I have yet to lose a 1v1 vs any class on my tele bowa.


Atleast you don't have to run out of that 75quantity with 11fpa m8
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Quote (PuA @ 10 Feb 2015 03:42)
I prefer the slower IAS that hits harder/ has a higher chance to one hit someone on impact (I've one hit hackers many times with a 11k phys + crit).

No good duelist will allow you to chain him with multiple rounds of Matris, I use an enigma on my zon most of the time so that can explain to you my play style, I like to lead people into my jav, if that doesn't kill them in one hit then I tele a screen or two away and fire a small round of arrows, when they tele towards me I tele towards them slightly to the top (Hard to explain). Works every time I have yet to lose a 1v1 vs any class on my tele bowa.


/facepalm
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Quote (SpAz. @ Feb 10 2015 01:43am)
Atleast you don't have to run out of that 75quantity with 11fpa m8

Harsh language rekt
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Feb 9 2015 07:45pm
You must understand the skill level of who you're trying to defeat with these javs, it is very hard not to get lead into a Javelin much as you can be the best boxer in the world but it is very hard to not get hit by at least one or two punches. But the best boxer in the world will never get hit by 50 punches, you're assuming someone will sit in your matris, top duelists will never allow you to hit them with more than 1 shot of Javs, but they must play aggressively or else get picked off by arrows.

I also use psn cloud, so to me the skills are absolutely important. Psn cloud also makes it harder for users to predict where that ONE shot punch will come from.

Factor in 70 damage you're losing over Spaz's times 2 = 140 damage.

That's a lot of damage to lose.
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Feb 9 2015 07:46pm
Quote (PuA @ 10 Feb 2015 03:45)
You must understand the skill level of who you're trying to defeat with these javs, it is very hard not to get lead into a Javelin much as you can be the best boxer in the world but it is very hard to not get hit by at least one or two punches. But the best boxer in the world will never get hit by 50 punches, you're assuming someone will sit in your matris, top duelists will never allow you to hit them with more than 1 shot of Javs, but they must play aggressively or else get picked off by arrows.

I also use psn cloud, so to me the skills are absolutely important. Psn cloud also makes it harder for users to predict where that ONE shot punch will come from.

Factor in 70 damage you're losing over Spaz's times 2 = 140 damage.

That's a lot of damage to lose.


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Feb 9 2015 07:48pm
You're also neglecting the fact that you can use a higher damage/ better bow like a GMB over a Diamond, and the massive tiny bonuses you're not accounting which make a large difference in the grand scheme of things.

Look at the big picture, play styles, etc.

I'm not saying this is the end-all-be-all javelin, different people are different. But I am telling you there's a difference between a trade spawn/ trophy spawn and an actual duelist who's used these javelins in the field vs top duelists.

That should be the deciding factor, not "basics" discussion because they don't apply at all in the real world.

Try arguing "Basics" with the world's greatest MMA fighter, he will laugh in your face, he probably is as far from basic as possible, and his form would be "Laughable" at a traditional academy.

But the result lies in the ring.
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Feb 9 2015 07:49pm
I'm pretty sure i'm using a grand matron bow mate
Quote (PuA @ 10 Feb 2015 03:48)
But I am telling you there's a difference between a trade spawn/ trophy spawn and an actual duelist who's used these javelins in the field vs top duelists.

exactly, thanks for confirming what i already know
also you're welcome to euro

This post was edited by SpAz. on Feb 9 2015 07:51pm
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Quote (SpAz. @ Feb 9 2015 08:49pm)
I'm pretty sure i'm using a grand matron bow mate


That's great, your javelin is amazing, like I said it's all personal preference, builds can vary wildly.

You're getting offended and posting s/s of other items.

I have far better items/ legendary fcr rings etc I've posted before that have truly been #1 (like my Storm Master/ ICB ammy/ Barb axe etc) I don't care for your mediocre to very good items, I prefer having one item that is truly useful in dueling.
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Np man, I'll put together a vanq when I get the time and come to Euro if my Ping isn't too high.

Let you know then.

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