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Jan 10 2012 01:42pm
Im not sure it can be put in same category as my off-hand, or if its better then.
2assa
3ls
5liferep
+2weapon block
2 open sox.

I mean, str is un-flexible. but I havent actually checked if it can be dealt with switching easily due storm +str or so.
Quote (VIH @ 10 Jan 2012 20:14)
10/10

second best offhand claw in realm so far :o


which do you think is better?

This post was edited by SpAz. on Jan 10 2012 01:43pm
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Im not sure it can be put in same category as my off-hand, or if its better then.
2assa
3ls
5liferep
+2weapon block
2 open sox.

I mean, str is un-flexible. but I havent actually checked if it can be dealt with switching easily due storm +str or so.

which do you think is better?


its better than urs
with ur claw you will need to use 1 amy and 1 ring or 2 rings to gather ur str
each ammy eqals 10 potential repl life and each ring 9 repl life --> you will loose at least 18 potential repl life to get a claw which gives you up to 13 potential repl life
with mine you loose 13 potential repl life and on top of that you get the freedom to use any 10 fcr 41 res ring for stacking

the only switch that you should have is storm + Hoto and claws have no impact on this setup

besides that
u got the lower req mod on the jools of your claws which is a wasted mod if the claw does not add stats ^


Quote (SpAz. @ 10 Jan 2012 21:10)
what about 174 fcr setup that I use vs necros. how can I use shadowdancers with spirit monarch?

ur saying -req isnt wasted on your claws? I use them for the 7fhr 4repl 10@res simply


giving up on clawblock is the last thing that you will want to do vs necs
thats like giving up on the boset for a widowmaker

the lower req on mine is used to bring the requierments down to the base stats which are @ 60 str/dex
if i wouldnt have the -req I would need to use a eni mp and get 19 dex from a ring/amy which is a bad tradeoff


Quote (SpAz. @ 10 Jan 2012 21:10)
then tell me why so many of the "top assas" (considered) are using it.
You are in disadvantage vs nec with or without c/c. You can learn how to side-step properly and then you arent blocking spears, you are avoiding them...
Then the extra breakpoint gets useful.

I rest my case and see we simply have a disagreement in opinions. Yours isnt "in fact" better than mine. theyre different. For me, mine is better due preferations, thats why I dont bid on urs now that it's for sale^^


if any topsin argues that a boner is gonna use spears against them and that giving up 57-60% block for a additional tele frame is the best counter for this matchup then ...
cmon
trolololololo? ^^

Quote (SpAz. @ 10 Jan 2012 21:10)
edit: I don't use eni mp and I dont use +dex ring to wear my claws or any.


y because you gather the 33+ str for the dancers with ur rings/ammy to get the dex from there
I was talking about the req mod on mine and why it is there

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what about 174 fcr setup that I use vs necros. how can I use shadowdancers with spirit monarch?

ur saying -req isnt wasted on your claws? I use them for the 7fhr 4repl 10@res simply

Quote (MoXeR @ 10 Jan 2012 22:07)
giving up on clawblock is the las thing that you will want to do vs necs


then tell me why so many of the "top assas" (considered) are using it.
You are in disadvantage vs nec with or without c/c. You can learn how to side-step properly and then you arent blocking spears, you are avoiding them...
Then the extra breakpoint gets useful.

I rest my case and see we simply have a disagreement in opinions. Yours isnt "in fact" better than mine. theyre different. For me, mine is better due preferations, thats why I dont bid on urs now that it's for sale^^

edit: I don't use eni mp and I dont use +dex ring to wear my claws or any.

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if any topsin argues that a boner is gonna use spears against them and that giving up 57-60% block for a additional tele frame is the best counter for this matchup then ...
cmon
trolololololo? ^^



Ask Jason_vorhees about it I guess. You also get +mindblast speed along with tele and extra fireblast dmg ofcourse. + higher fhr breakpoint/oak charges.

and at the bolded part, lol serious? ofcourse a good boner will use spear vs assasin in trap vs assa^^

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edit: wrong video

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Jan 10 2012 02:47pm
Sick claw. ;)

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Quote (SpAz. @ 10 Jan 2012 21:45)
Ask Jason_vorhees about it I guess. You also get +mindblast speed along with tele and extra fireblast dmg ofcourse. + higher fhr breakpoint/oak charges.

and at the bolded part, lol serious? ofcourse a good boner will use spear vs assasin in trap vs assa^^


http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=306891
wating for his response

Quote (SpAz. @ 10 Jan 2012 21:47)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl-Offflr9U

edit: wrong video


i must admit that this guy kicks ass
but overall your better of to play standart or swap to chaos/fury in that matchup
i wouldnt count on that setup working for you the way it does for him
that guy in that vid is a sick bastard ^
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Quote (MoXeR @ 10 Jan 2012 22:58)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=306891
wating for his response



i must admit that this guy kicks ass
but overall your better of to play standart or swap to chaos/fury in that matchup
i wouldnt count on that setup working for you the way it does for him
that guy in that vid is a sick bastard ^


Yes, he is better than me on trap. but I started to handle the 174 setup quite well lately :)

heres his profile xD
http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=292107
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Jan 10 2012 03:17pm
your logic is flawless.

i would personally charsi, but congrats i guess.

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Jan 10 2012 03:26pm
SilentSnake Have Better :)

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#1 Trap Eu Sc NL

anw

9.5/10

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