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Nice 9 out of 10
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Thanks for the ratings, guys. Very happy to see them.

Is anyone aware of other contenders for the #1 singer helm spot?

This helm has bis perfect singer skills and 2 sockets in a gold arreat skin.
The only thing that it lacks is a life suffix.
The "perfect world" 10/10 would be this with 100 life ofc, but the odds of that happening are beyond astronomical.
For comparison, the odds of finding a perfect eth tomb reaver are like 1:12b, but this helm with 100 life is 1:195b.
And how many p eth tomb reavers have we found. Lol.
This helm itself is 1:185m.
(I only consider avenger and slayer guards in this calculation as we want low str req and arreat style.)

So if we compare it to the dream trophy, I personally give this item a 8.5-9/10, with the extra point reserved for the impossible life suffix.
But if we compare it to what actually exists so far, I'd like to see something that deserves a 10/10 more than this.
Is there a better helm around?

This post was edited by unitedcows on Jun 1 2026 04:26am
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Thanks for the ratings, guys. Very happy to see them.

Is anyone aware of other contenders for the #1 singer helm spot?

This helm has bis perfect singer skills and 2 sockets in a gold arreat skin.
The only thing that it lacks is a life suffix.
The "perfect world" 10/10 would be this with 100 life ofc, but the odds of that happening are beyond astronomical.
For comparison, the odds of finding a perfect eth tomb reaver are like 1:12b, but this helm with 100 life is 1:195b.
And how many p eth tomb reavers have we found. Lol.
This helm itself is 1:185m.
(I only consider avenger and slayer guards in this calculation as we want low str req and arreat style.)

So if we compare it to the dream trophy, I personally give this item a 8.5-9/10, with the extra point reserved for the impossible life suffix.
But if we compare it to what actually exists so far, I'd like to see something that deserves a 10/10 more than this.
Is there a better helm around?


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Jun 1 2026 11:03am
Super basic magic helm. Guarantee this same helm has been found 1000 times before, and itll drop 10000 times more
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Jun 1 2026 11:04am
Super basic magic helm. Guarantee this same helm has been found 1000 times before, and itll drop 10000 times more


Lmao.
Show me or shut up.
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lol
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Super basic magic helm. Guarantee this same helm has been found 1000 times before, and itll drop 10000 times more


even without a suffix that's simply not true. that's why you're seeing a magic item in the trophy room, in 2026, WITHOUT a suffix get solid ratings.

rolling 3 to warcries is just a matter of lotto of the affix table, then rolling +3 war cry, +3 battle orders and +3 to inc speed (the 3 BIS automods) all in a row makes it far far more rare.

think of sorc orbs, typically people are excited just to get +3 to their main skill, then +2-3 to their mastery, no useful let alone BIS 3rd automod. or if they are its very rare.

plus all those odds again get 50% at larzuk.
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Jun 1 2026 11:26am
Thanks for the ratings, guys. Very happy to see them.

Is anyone aware of other contenders for the #1 singer helm spot?

This helm has bis perfect singer skills and 2 sockets in a gold arreat skin.
The only thing that it lacks is a life suffix.
The "perfect world" 10/10 would be this with 100 life ofc, but the odds of that happening are beyond astronomical.
For comparison, the odds of finding a perfect eth tomb reaver are like 1:12b, but this helm with 100 life is 1:195b.
And how many p eth tomb reavers have we found. Lol.
This helm itself is 1:185m.
(I only consider avenger and slayer guards in this calculation as we want low str req and arreat style.)

So if we compare it to the dream trophy, I personally give this item a 8.5-9/10, with the extra point reserved for the impossible life suffix.
But if we compare it to what actually exists so far, I'd like to see something that deserves a 10/10 more than this.
Is there a better helm around?


With your valid points taken into consideration, I still believe 8/10 is the maximum fair rating. 9/10 if it had any useful suffix including low-mid life, 9.5 for high life, 10/10 if it had 90+ life. Gold colour is not really a great look tbh, just proves at a glance that it doesn’t have a suffix, so yeah idk, that part is subjective. I get that it has great staffmods, but tbh at the end of the day I’d rather +3 find item than either inc speed or bo. Sure, it may only give 1% more, but on a character that stuns everything and has battle cry debuff, extra points in BO are probably less valuable than even 1% more find item. Also, how rare something is to drop does not affect its trophy status.
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Jun 1 2026 11:38am
With your valid points taken into consideration, I still believe 8/10 is the maximum fair rating. 9/10 if it had any useful suffix including low-mid life, 9.5 for high life, 10/10 if it had 90+ life. Gold colour is not really a great look tbh, just proves at a glance that it doesn’t have a suffix, so yeah idk, that part is subjective. I get that it has great staffmods, but tbh at the end of the day I’d rather +3 find item than either inc speed or bo. Sure, it may only give 1% more, but on a character that stuns everything and has battle cry debuff, extra points in BO are probably less valuable than even 1% more find item. Also, how rare something is to drop does not affect its trophy status.


Also valid points. Of course, you're entitled to your fair rating, and thanks for that.
Btw I didn't actually factor the gold color into my rating of 8.5-9. It was just a nice look to me.

However, I do disagree on find item. The 1% boost has a negligible effect if it takes you from 75 to 76%. IS frees up two skill points that don't HAVE to go into bo. Those points provide flexibility to allocate points elsewhere for variants that use other skills, for example, grim ward or bash/double swing. Or, of course, just bo if you want, which actually becomes more relevant in p5-p7, even with stun and battle cry.
Imo that flexibility outweighs a 1% find item increase.

Btw, the two saved points can still go into find item, so there's even more flexibility.

Thanks to this helm, my dream build is enabled with just enough points to max all my war cry and find item synergies at lvl 99. With even one less skill point, I'd be annoyed until the game goes out of service. Lol. But I appreciate your input and your 8.

I also understand that some of this is subjective, so my intention is not to argue about who's more right or wrong.
I just like good discussion.

This post was edited by unitedcows on Jun 1 2026 11:55am
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