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Jan 25 2022 10:21am
Quote (ferdia @ Jan 25 2022 11:20am)
The Cuban Missile crisis analogy relates to Russia encroaching on US's back door.
Here we have the EU encroaching on Russia's back door.
Your comment re: Putin's nukes closer to the USA makes no sense whatsoever.


Wrong. Russia shortens the time it takes a nuclear weapon to reach usa ground significantly if they also control Ukraine.

This post was edited by said_aouita on Jan 25 2022 10:24am
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Jan 25 2022 10:38am
just as a matter of interest, because I dont know and this is completely off topic as far as I am concerned, but, whats the time difference hypothetically ?
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Quote (said_aouita @ Jan 25 2022 04:12pm)
Yup. Again, why is Russia invading a neighbor US-EU's fault? What about when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014? Who's fault was that?

fyi - Ukraine hasn't joined NATO, and Putin doesn't get to decide who defends Ukraine.

And to add, the Warsaw Pact dissolved over 30 years ago.


It looks like you don't know anything about the subject just like skinned lol

Russia didn't want to invade Ukraine in 2014, they wanted to take control of Crimea because NATO expected it to be handed to them on a silver platter once Ukraine would be a NATO member. Crimea is home of the Russian Black Sea fleet and probably Russia's most important harbor. You should also know that the Russians have owned Crimea since 1783 when the Tsarist Empire annexed it a decade after defeating Ottoman forces in the Battle of Kozludzha but they gave it to Ukraine when it was part of the Soviet Union https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/why-did-russia-give-away-crimea-sixty-years-ago.

After the Soviet Union fell apart the Russians leased the all important naval facilities from Ukraine and that lease was later extended https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Pact

The EU and the US are solely to blame for the tensions and should have understood long ago that Russia is never going to give up Crimea.

BTW One of the factors Russia determines it's security by is the time it takes for ballistic missiles to reach their targets. Of course having nukes installed on your doorstep is a security issue. Why the hell do you think the West didn't like it when the Soviets were installing nukes on Cuba and the West was prepared to go to war to prevent it. Wake the fuck up guys.
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Jan 25 2022 11:07am
Quote (Djunior @ Jan 25 2022 04:53pm)
It looks like you don't know anything about the subject just like skinned lol

Russia didn't want to invade Ukraine in 2014, they wanted to take control of Crimea because NATO expected it to be handed to them on a silver platter once Ukraine would be a NATO member. Crimea is home of the Russian Black Sea fleet and probably Russia's most important harbor. You should also know that the Russians have owned Crimea since 1783 when the Tsarist Empire annexed it a decade after defeating Ottoman forces in the Battle of Kozludzha but they gave it to Ukraine when it was part of the Soviet Union https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/why-did-russia-give-away-crimea-sixty-years-ago.

After the Soviet Union fell apart the Russians leased the all important naval facilities from Ukraine and that lease was later extended https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Pact

The EU and the US are solely to blame for the tensions and should have understood long ago that Russia is never going to give up Crimea.

BTW One of the factors Russia determines it's security by is the time it takes for ballistic missiles to reach their targets. Of course having nukes installed on your doorstep is a security issue. Why the hell do you think the West didn't like it when the Soviets were installing nukes on Cuba and the West was prepared to go to war to prevent it. Wake the fuck up guys.



:hail:

Also

9,153 km Distance from Ukraine to United States
8,881 km Distance from Russia to United States

its not a matter of Russia putting Nukes in Ukraine its about the west encroaching on Russia.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 25 2022 11:11am
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Jan 25 2022 11:21am
Does Ukraine have oil?
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Jan 25 2022 11:23am
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Jan 25 2022 11:22pm
this is actual worthy PARD content unlike most of the trash here

very scary stuff happening here

I hope Putin reconsiders and doesn't invade. A lot of unnecessary death will happen if he does
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Jan 25 2022 11:57pm
Quote (said_aouita @ Jan 25 2022 05:21pm)
Wrong. Russia shortens the time it takes a nuclear weapon to reach usa ground significantly if they also control Ukraine.



what the fuck 😂😂😂😂 you americans are so fuckin stupid thats unbelieavable 😂😂😂😂
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Jan 26 2022 12:53am
I live in Hawaii and am starting to get a little concerned... If we go to war across the Pacific, we're a prime target
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Jan 26 2022 12:58am
Fk russia
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