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Jun 12 2017 05:58pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Jun 12 2017 06:53pm)
Corporations will always seek profit. No matter how much finger pointing and blaming that happens it will always be that way. It's useless to do so.
Definitely need to look to the government to do their job or the people need to do a better job in deciding who gets OUR money.


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Jun 12 2017 06:07pm
Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 13 2017 04:29am)
Yeah I mean except for you know, 7 months ago when poor working class came out to give Trump arguably the biggest upset victory ever for the presidency.


Ok you got me, a billionaire got elected by throwing heaps of money at his election and foreign entities working towards the goal of smearing his opponent, so america is definitely not an oligarchy..
Wait what?
Trump now has the lowest first year approval rating in history, so i guess everything worked out for those poor working class people.

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Ok you got me, a billionaire got elected by throwing heaps of money at his election and foreign entities working towards the goal of smearing his opponent, so america is definitely not an oligarchy..
Wait what?
Trump now has the lowest first year approval rating in history, so i guess everything worked out for those poor working class people.


My point is that everyone still gets a vote and it's equal value (ish). The thing I find annoying is that if Hillary lost by 10 million people, but won the electoral college, you'd see dems laughing at republicans and arguing the exact same point republicans are arguing with their win, it's how it was designed by the constitution. It just didn't go in the democrats favor, so boohoo.
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Jun 13 2017 06:47pm
Not really a new face of evil....
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Jun 13 2017 07:01pm
Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 13 2017 11:05am)
My point is that everyone still gets a vote and it's equal value (ish). The thing I find annoying is that if Hillary lost by 10 million people, but won the electoral college, you'd see dems laughing at republicans and arguing the exact same point republicans are arguing with their win, it's how it was designed by the constitution. It just didn't go in the democrats favor, so boohoo.


I disagree. You likely would be seeing a much larger backlash from republicans. I mean hell, trump was calling for a second amendment solution to a hillary victory...
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Jun 13 2017 08:30pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 14 2017 11:47am)
Not really a new face of evil....


When you take into contrast the definition: profound immorality and wickedness, especially when regarded as a supernatural force.
It has got to the point where too big to fail corporations are a power unto themselves and rival those supernatural forces of evil early civilization feared.
Now see a corporation is not evil out of malice, they are evil out of the lack of empathy that comes from a group collective based on greed.
They can justify the same evils that a truly evil person would do but the corporation keeps them at arms length, no one has to take responsibility.
Sure corporations are not new, but the sheer scope of the current ones would boggle the mind of people back in the 1800's who just had to deal with your run of the mill evil robber barons and axe murderers.
These days a company like bp can kill a few million sea creatures, 7 employees and poison a few thousand more and no one bats an eye and no one takes responsibility.

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Jun 13 2017 08:42pm
Quote (AspenSniper @ 13 Jun 2017 13:05)
My point is that everyone still gets a vote and it's equal value (ish). The thing I find annoying is that if Hillary lost by 10 million people, but won the electoral college, you'd see dems laughing at republicans and arguing the exact same point republicans are arguing with their win, it's how it was designed by the constitution. It just didn't go in the democrats favor, so boohoo.

oh they'd be doing more than laughing, they'd be worshiping that 'flawed' document called that Constitution like it was Communist Manifesto and Rules for Radicals and all rolled into one
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Jun 13 2017 08:59pm
Quote (excellence @ Jun 13 2017 09:42pm)
oh they'd be doing more than laughing, they'd be worshiping that 'flawed' document called that Constitution like it was Communist Manifesto and Rules for Radicals and all rolled into one



The ONLY problem I see with the Constitution and the Amendments, is the millions of lawyers/politicians trying to find loopholes in the two documents.
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Jun 13 2017 09:04pm
What was the old face ?
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Jun 13 2017 09:17pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jun 14 2017 02:04pm)
What was the old face ?


Serial killers, dictators, robber barons, etc.
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