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when a train derail, it always end up to stop.
when corporatism derail, ..... rekt
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american ceo's are overpaid compared to their japanese counterparts yet the auto industry has the japanese dominating


Japanese culture is weirdly amazing though. If the companies in Japan start to fail, CEOs and top level management get their pay cut or get set loose and not the workers. At least many companies in Japan operate that way. There is a bigger culture of responsibility placed on positions of authority in Japan. Not to mention some Japanese workers work so hard that they drive themselves to suicide.
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Japanese culture is weirdly amazing though. If the companies in Japan start to fail, CEOs and top level management get their pay cut or get set loose and not the workers. At least many companies in Japan operate that way. There is a bigger culture of responsibility placed on positions of authority in Japan. Not to mention some Japanese workers work so hard that they drive themselves to suicide.


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Life isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Americans get to own guns but it very much negatively affects crime and increases the likelihood of suicide being successful.
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Life isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Americans get to own guns but it very much negatively affects crime and increases the likelihood of suicide being successful.


Slightly more suicides vs alot more deaths due firearms.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 16 2017 11:29pm)
it needs to be said that we need to differentiate between the "hurr durr _____ CEO makes too much" and "overall CEO's make too much". Sure, if you pay someone less and you're the only one doing it, then yeah, the person (i typed "guy" originally and felt sexist) is gonna go elsewhere. But guess what, if they ALL make a bit less someone who's qualified and talented is still gonna take the job.

it's a fine line for sure. but there are plenty of anecdotes that are just downright shameful, bank exec payouts post banking collapse in 2008 and Mylan payouts well above the industry standard seem to be good examples.


Very well formulated. Sad thing is, this is just supply and demand. If the shareholders know that they can collectively make 20 million by hiring a better CEO for 10 million, then they'll do it.

It's something we cannot do anything about. Between capitalism and communism, capitalism is the least undesirable option and so we have to live with some of the nasty side-effects. The ability to make money is what drives innovation and progression, but it's also what drives greed and social injustice.

A capitalist world where CEOs get paid fairlyâ„¢ is as Utopian as a communist world where everyone is motivated to work hard.
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Slightly more suicides vs alot more deaths due firearms.


Most gun deaths in the United States are suicides.
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Japanese culture is weirdly amazing though. If the companies in Japan start to fail, CEOs and top level management get their pay cut or get set loose and not the workers. At least many companies in Japan operate that way. There is a bigger culture of responsibility placed on positions of authority in Japan. Not to mention some Japanese workers work so hard that they drive themselves to suicide.


They believe in things like honor and respect while we believe in things like the Kardashians and WWE.
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Jul 18 2017 12:40pm
The problems increased when corporations started to operate based on share holder profit and not for their customers or employees.
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