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Jun 8 2017 07:47pm
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Not sure what to think about the Scotland results so far. On the one hand, I enjoy Nicola Sturgeon losing seats, but there's a bitter taste in my mouth considering they're mostly going to the Tories.


It is a bit of a worry.

It's also a bit weird as a lot of those SNP seats were taken from Labour in 2016. For seats to change hands so many times in such a short time shows the turbulent nature of the Scottish political climate. Once again they are at odds with the English too. BBC says this 'kicks talks of an independence referendum into the long grass'. If anything I think it makes them more valid. Quite clearly (assuming the majority of SNP seats continue going to the Conservatives and labour don't make substantial gains) the Scottish want different things to the English.
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Jun 8 2017 08:16pm
Labour making some gains in Scotland now though. Perhaps not as worrying as first thought.

e/ nvm. Another 'safe' SNP seat to the Tories.

Scotland is a bit crazy right now lol. Gonna be big for the election.

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Jun 8 2017 08:46pm
SNP seem to have managed to hold onto many of their seats.

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Jun 8 2017 09:28pm
Scotland may have saved the conservatives from being unable to form a govt. The Irish Unionists have done very well and their 10+ seats may prove pivotal - they would almost undoubtedly back the Tories.
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Jun 8 2017 10:36pm
Out of curiosity googled uk election. There's A LOT of salt against Corbyn right now. Lots of butthurt articles that remind me of what they were writing about Bernie.

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Jun 8 2017 10:55pm
well, looks like may's plan to strengthen her position based on the support she had when she decided to call for snap elections (although she previously, when the polls looked worse, ruled out earlier elections) backfired MASSIVELY - and she's certainly to blame for it.
will be interesting to see how she plans to form a stable, "mainstream government" now...
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Jun 8 2017 11:28pm
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Scotland may have saved the conservatives from being unable to form a govt. The Irish Unionists have done very well and their 10+ seats may prove pivotal - they would almost undoubtedly back the Tories.


well damn, here I was hoping I can call u brits comrade. guess I have to wait

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Jun 8 2017 11:33pm
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Put some on a hung parliament as well imo.
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well, looks like may's plan to strengthen her position based on the support she had when she decided to call for snap elections (although she previously, when the polls looked worse, ruled out earlier elections) backfired MASSIVELY - and she's certainly to blame for it.
will be interesting to see how she plans to form a stable, "mainstream government" now...


her plan sure did backfire spectacularly. but when you look at the polling in this figure:

you can see that the tories are actually at about where they were before the sudden poll surge that prompted May to call the snap election. so the tories havent underperformed thaaaaat badly in terms of popular vote.
instead, its the sudden and unexpected comeback of labour which put them in a spot where they could be competitive for a lot of tory-held seats.

ofc, it is the nature of the british election system to be very unpredictable and to sometimes yield dramatic gains or losses of seats based on relatively marginal changes in the popular vote shares. elections in the UK are inherently more risky than in other countries.
furthermore, it was ofc a mistake of May to run such a dreadful campaign. nonetheless, despite its abysmal outcome, I actually still think that the logic behind her call for the snap election was solid.

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Jun 9 2017 01:23am
Don't think I can think of a worse result for everyone.

Torys ran the most arrogant campaign in British history, while Labour offered every carrot available, and still Torys got the most seats. While many will be cheering corbyn (maybe rightfully so!) there will be a few thinking if there was a different leader in, they could have smashed this farce of a tory campaign to pieces and maybe stole a majority.

All those ukipper votes up for grabs and Torys offer absolutely nothing to draw them in, so they get split all over the place. Add to that alienating their core with no promises on the triple lock pensions and the whole social care bollocks. What a fucking mess the Torys are in. No idea how they expected to get more seats without offering anything at all.

Only good news of the day is seeing that Nicola beast fake smile as she claims a massive 21 seat loss is a victory. :lol:
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