Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 26 2020 05:30pm)

Hillary Clinton said she thought the markings were in alphabetical order. You are saying the only handful of documents even had letters. Clinton's answer clearly makes no sense.

There is no distinction. In 2008 Obama agreed in a debate to meet with Iran's leadership without precondition. There is no constructive difference between saying it in public or private. If Trump said "I will immediately reverse any Obama-administration sanctions" it would be above board, even though (obviously), Russian officials would be listening. But having a much less confrontational phone call is not above board, for what reasons you are unable or unwilling to explain.

My position is that there is no difference between telling Russian officials something publicly or privately. Please illustrate what you think the difference is, and why one is ok and the other is not.

Quote (Landmine @ Nov 26 2020 05:32pm)

You think I don’t know that? A conversation that got caught on a hot mic... your hypocrisy and icemages is just plain idiotic.

Quote (Landmine @ 26 Nov 2020 17:32)

You think I don’t know that? A conversation that got caught on a hot mic... your hypocrisy and icemages is just plain idiotic.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 26 2020 04:34pm)

If you know that then there's literally no reason to post it. It proves nothing of substance to the conversation

Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 26 2020 06:33pm)

That's a very dumb position lol

Politicians hold each other to very different standards in public than private.

Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 26 2020 05:37pm)

I am asking for an explanation as to why "I will reverse Russia sanctions" is ok when said to the whole world, and not ok when said in private.

"It's inappropriate!" is not an argument. I know that a bunch of you have your panties in a knot, I'm asking you to explain why.

Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 26 2020 06:30pm)

Hillary Clinton said she thought the markings were in alphabetical order. You are saying the only handful of documents even had letters. Clinton's answer clearly makes no sense.

There is no distinction. In 2008 Obama agreed in a debate to meet with Iran's leadership without precondition. There is no constructive difference between saying it in public or private. If Trump said "I will immediately reverse any Obama-administration sanctions" it would be above board, even though (obviously), Russian officials would be listening. But having a much less confrontational phone call is not above board, for what reasons you are unable or unwilling to explain.

My position is that there is no difference between telling Russian officials something publicly or privately. Please illustrate what you think the difference is, and why one is ok and the other is not.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 26 Nov 2020 17:38)

So Trump is trying to protecting himself by pardonning alot of criminals who know much about him :lol:

Quote (Jere @ 27 Nov 2020 00:55)

Flynn pardoned was someone else? DoJ dropped charges, judge was just sitting on it not dismissing.. Trump correctly used the pardon as stated by Department of Justice.

CNN leave that part out?