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Nov 26 2020 03:23pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 26 2020 02:57pm)
A handful of emails had confidential markings, which is why she thought they were in alphabetical order? You need to stop this. The story doesn't make any sense at all.

It is ok for Flynn to come out publicly and state the president-elect's positions, and it's ok for the president-elect to state specifically what he is going to do, but it is not ok for the president-elect or his officials to state these things privately. Do I have it right?


There's a pretty big discrepancy between a president elect stating his priorities and positions, and a president elect (or his team) specifically meeting and asking specific action from foreign leadership.
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Nov 26 2020 04:29pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 26 2020 08:22am)
Sure. Among Trump cultists Comey has no credibility, but I consider him credible, and many others do as well. He was ultimately responsible for the investigation.

Considering that there were only a handful of emails that contained material with classified markings, it's reasonable to assume Hillary intended to not use that email to send or receive classified information. She shouldn't have used a private email on a private server, but she didn't intentionally break the law. I assume Hillary used appropriate email systems to send or receive classified information when that was her intention.

Counter-intelligence agents don't rule out an investigative avenue by making assumptions. It would've been negligent for them to not ask Flynn about his conversation with the Russian ambassador... because after all, they were investigating Russian interference. In reality, Flynn got a good deal... there were other crimes he could've been prosecuted for.

I don't know what's hard to get about this... transition officials should not be engaging in diplomacy. In the aftermath of a Russian attack on our election, Flynn made an ask of the Russian ambassador, which was inappropriate. He also asked Russia to act a certain way on the Israeli UN vote.

Ultimately, even though his behavior was inappropriate, it wouldn't have been prosecutable. Then he told multiple lies to the FBI. He admitted that in court twice. Then he decided not to take responsibility for his actions because he knew the corrupt, incompetent buffoon in the Oval Office would pardon him.





I bet if you say these things another 100 times... they still won't be true. LOL
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Nov 26 2020 04:45pm
Quote (Ghot @ 26 Nov 2020 16:29)
I bet if you say these things another 100 times... they still won't be true. LOL


Probably didn't even get that joke
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Nov 26 2020 05:11pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 26 2020 03:57pm)
A handful of emails had confidential markings, which is why she thought they were in alphabetical order? You need to stop this. The story doesn't make any sense at all.

It is ok for Flynn to come out publicly and state the president-elect's positions, and it's ok for the president-elect to state specifically what he is going to do, but it is not ok for the president-elect or his officials to state these things privately. Do I have it right?


I don't know what you're referring to.

As Thor said, the distinction is real and to me, it's not hard to understand.
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Nov 26 2020 05:19pm
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 26 2020 02:29pm)
I bet if you say these things another 100 times... they still won't be true. LOL



Very similar to “trump is a good president”
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Nov 26 2020 05:24pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 26 2020 02:23pm)
There's a pretty big discrepancy between a president elect stating his priorities and positions, and a president elect (or his team) specifically meeting and asking specific action from foreign leadership.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8

Russian collusion confirmed.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xHmyKksPois




This post was edited by Landmine on Nov 26 2020 05:30pm
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Nov 26 2020 05:29pm
Quote (Landmine @ 26 Nov 2020 17:24)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8

Russian collusion confirmed.


Will click it. See it's negative towards Obama and close it.

Probably won't even click it now

He's their hero

This post was edited by Jere on Nov 26 2020 05:29pm
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Nov 26 2020 05:30pm
Quote (Landmine @ Nov 26 2020 05:24pm)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8

Russian collusion confirmed.


Obama was president when he said that.

Gosh you're dumb.
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Nov 26 2020 05:30pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 26 2020 06:11pm)
I don't know what you're referring to.

As Thor said, the distinction is real and to me, it's not hard to understand.


Hillary Clinton said she thought the markings were in alphabetical order. You are saying the only handful of documents even had letters. Clinton's answer clearly makes no sense.

There is no distinction. In 2008 Obama agreed in a debate to meet with Iran's leadership without precondition. There is no constructive difference between saying it in public or private. If Trump said "I will immediately reverse any Obama-administration sanctions" it would be above board, even though (obviously), Russian officials would be listening. But having a much less confrontational phone call is not above board, for what reasons you are unable or unwilling to explain.

My position is that there is no difference between telling Russian officials something publicly or privately. Please illustrate what you think the difference is, and why one is ok and the other is not.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Nov 26 2020 05:30pm
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Nov 26 2020 05:32pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 26 2020 04:30pm)
Obama was president when he said that.

Gosh you're dumb.



You think I don’t know that? A conversation that got caught on a hot mic... your hypocrisy and icemages is just plain idiotic.

You imbeciles would have a 200 page topic if the same thing happened to trump.

This post was edited by Landmine on Nov 26 2020 05:34pm
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