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Feb 23 2017 06:49pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 23 2017 06:22pm)
Why should states get to pick who can use the bathroom in public?


...because we didn't grant the power to police restrooms to the federal government in the Constitution?
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Feb 23 2017 06:56pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 23 2017 07:49pm)
...because we didn't grant the power to police restrooms to the federal government in the Constitution?


Why do you believe anybody has to be legally blocked from public restrooms? State or Federal governments? Different pockets on the same pair of authoritarian pants.

Quote (Master_Zappy @ Feb 23 2017 07:45pm)
I think the more "controversial" an issue is the closer to home it should be decided and firmly believe in the experiment of state's prerogative over federal ones whenever there is a conflict between the two positions, agree with this or not, at least it's consistent unlike the current and last couple POTUS admins we've had. I showed the other day the folly mathematically how ludicrous it is to be be concerned and worried about trans people in the bathroom, perhaps you missed that thread. I do support trans people being able to use public bathrooms and private venues having the choice to decide for themselves. Creating a law that does not allow trans people into the public bathroom in my view is an assumption of guilt and wrong doing without evidence thereof, as it subscribes motive and makes a victim by enforcement of said law.


Plus it is a generally shitty and backward thing to do. But I agree with your opinion.

Historically speaking though, we had this fight already, with the blacks at the lunch counters.

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Feb 23 2017 07:00pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 23 2017 06:56pm)
Why do you believe anybody has to be legally blocked from public restrooms? State or Federal governments? Different pockets on the same pair of authoritarian pants.


I didn't say anything about condoning blocking people from public restrooms. I said we didn't give the federal government the power to regulate them.
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Feb 23 2017 07:02pm
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I didn't say anything about condoning blocking people from public restrooms. I said we didn't give the federal government the power to regulate them.


Nor the states? Or in your mind does states rights mean they get to regulate every aspect of civic life, such as who pees where?

I'm sorry. One is no different than the other, any any preference between the two is just prejudice more or less. The state is the State.
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Feb 23 2017 07:03pm
Quote (Santara @ 24 Feb 2017 01:00)
I didn't say anything about condoning blocking people from public restrooms. I said we didn't give the federal government the power to regulate them.


Well someone has to decide who can and can't go in them. What do you propose?
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Feb 23 2017 07:36pm
Waste. Of. Money.

Already cost too much.

Looking forward to the massive deal some will make the first anecdote case that happens.
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Quote (Skinned @ Feb 23 2017 07:02pm)
Nor the states? Or in your mind does states rights mean they get to regulate every aspect of civic life, such as who pees where?

I'm sorry. One is no different than the other, any any preference between the two is just prejudice more or less. The state is the State.


Like it or not, the states hold the police power.

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Well someone has to decide who can and can't go in them. What do you propose?


The owners of the restrooms, obviously.
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Quote (IceMage @ Feb 9 2017 11:03am)
50 years from now my grandkids will be asking me, "Grandpa, how did someone like Trump ever come to power?".


You're wife's son's kid?
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Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Mar 7 2017 01:43pm)
You're wife's son's kid?


Your wife's son's kid, fucking cuck.

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