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Jun 13 2016 10:24am
Quote (Brian_D @ Jun 13 2016 11:10am)
3 sets vs 5 that guys play. is that not a thing?


maybe if you count a men's set as 3/5ths of a women's set the math works out
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Jun 13 2016 10:33am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 13 2016 09:38am)
tie a rock to yourself and jump off a bridge


Because fish in a barrel are easier.

I think male and female atheletes are overpaid.
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Jun 13 2016 10:39am
Quote (Skinned @ Jun 13 2016 11:33am)
Because fish in a barrel are easier.

I think male and female atheletes are overpaid.


I once thought that too
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Jun 13 2016 11:55am
Ah yes, those famous feminists in charge of Wimbledon prizes,hmm, quite, indeed.

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Because fish in a barrel are easier.

I think male and female atheletes are overpaid.


The vast majority are underpaid.

This post was edited by AiNedeSpelCzech on Jun 13 2016 11:55am
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Jun 13 2016 12:10pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 13 2016 01:54am)
That is a poor way to measure skill. You're measuring ability in the situation you describe.


Why is it a poor way to measure skill? The fact that there are separate women's leagues in any sport is just a confirmation that they can't play on the same level as male counterparts.
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Jun 13 2016 12:17pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 13 2016 02:30am)
http://www.dailystead.com/wimbledon-to-pay-female-tennis-players-twice-as-much-as-males-from-2017



the feminist nutjobs have succeeded in securing greater pay for female tennis players despite them drawing fewer views

congrats on more pay for less work which is what the gender gap movement has been about a ll along


i didnt read cuz i cant be fucked but i like how the quote says 20% and the headline says double

lel media headlines

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Jun 13 2016 12:27pm
Men bring in more revenue from TV viewership, merchandising and sponsors. Men play 5 sets as opposed to 3 sets for women. It may be the same level of 'effort' exerted for males and females, but it involves a higher number of hours worked for the men. People are usually paid based on what they do, how efficiently they do it and how long they do it for.

I'm a supporter of equal pay for equal work - the gender pay gap in tennis does not fit that basic criteria.

Also, I was skeptical of the article duffman linked due to it looking like a poorly done right wing media troll. So I tried looking for it elsewhere and saw no mention of it whatsoever - I'd like to see an official source in case I missed it.
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Jun 13 2016 03:19pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jun 13 2016 04:06pm)
your own personal experience means nothing to the discussion

here are the relevant facts if you want to talk about popularity

Viewing figures for Wimbledon 2015 finals
UK (BBC)
Wimbledon men’s final (BBC) – 9.2m viewers
Wimbledon ladies’ final (BBC) – 4.3m viewers
http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/21/novak-djokovic-is-right-male-tennis-players-do-deserve-to-be-paid-more-than-female-stars-5765546/#ixzz4BT4nKYV2

the only ridiculousness in this thread are the feminists rejecting reality in favour of their own delusions about womens tennis
you can't provide a legitamite argument as to why the women should be paid as much or more than the men despite being inferior draws and inferior players so you go for the free market approach of letting the organizers plan the events however they want - but we all know you'd be stomping your feet and screaming for blood if the organizers decided blacks should be paid less than their white counter parts in this sport


So you say Belgium is my personal experience, but British statistics are relevant facts? I actually literally laughed out loud irl when I read that. Make up your mind before you speak.

There is no basis for black and white sports to be segregated, so yes that would be atrocious. I don't mind that men usually get paid more, by the way. That is a logical result from the fact that men's sports are usually indeed more entertaining because of their superior strength and stamina.

On the other hand it's pathetic that you guys bash Wimbledon for this, and that you use the sets as a reason for this. What if this decision was influenced by a sponsor that targets a female audience? In the end, sponsors and popularity are the only things that matter; definitely not how "hard work" the sports is (if that were even quantifiable).

This post was edited by howtodisappearcompletely on Jun 13 2016 03:21pm
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Jun 13 2016 03:55pm
It's a satire website...
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Jun 13 2016 03:59pm
Quote (timmayX @ Jun 13 2016 12:10pm)
Why is it a poor way to measure skill? The fact that there are separate women's leagues in any sport is just a confirmation that they can't play on the same level as male counterparts.


Because there are physiological differences. It doesn't matter if you have a better technical expertise when the other group has an inherent advantage
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