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Apr 21 2016 07:23pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 21 2016 07:13pm)
Uhhh.


I don't think that includes "faith healing."
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 21 2016 09:18pm)
Do you believe the State has the right to intervene in cases like the OP?


...yes , always have and always will . If I choose to die for my religious beliefs that's my choice , choosing to let my child die for my beliefs would be an abomination .
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What should the punishment be in a case like this? And for future cases, does the State have the right to intervene, and if so, what would that look like?


Well actions that lead to death or severe permanent complications at a minimum we'll go with prison.
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 22 2016 01:23am)
...yes , always have and always will . If I choose to die for my religious beliefs that's my choice , choosing to let my child die for my beliefs would be an abomination .


I agree. Although I don't currently know what such an intervention would look like. Does the State come in and remove the child permanently from the family? Temporarily until the medical condition is addressed? Threaten them legally unless their child gets adequate medical attention?

What do you think?
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Quote (Hubris @ 21 Apr 2016 21:19)
Because what other people choose that has nothing to do with you matters so much right?

Not allowed to discriminate against people who claim to be something that they aren't, but you are allowed to imprison or fine people who don't do things the way you do.
Sounds like a really consistent ideology.

I prefer they choose not to use the medical industry, it saves on costs and it was their right to make the decision.


Are you for real?

I wanna say I'm having a hard time believe someone can think that way, but really I don't anymore. I'm just baffled you managed to make it this far without dying.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 21 Apr 2016 21:23)
...yes , always have and always will . If I choose to die for my religious beliefs that's my choice , choosing to let my child die for my beliefs would be an abomination .


See I never got along with this widowmaker guy because we have fundamentally difference beliefs, but he's not willing to risk the lives of others because of his beliefs. I respect that.


Wtf Hubris...

This post was edited by CMBurns on Apr 21 2016 07:27pm
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Quote (IceMage @ Apr 22 2016 01:19am)
This situation looks like abuse.

However, I fear the slippery slope which might result in overreach by the government. Circumcision could be argued as abuse and thus parents could be charged.


Perhaps legislation should change such that it only applies to life-threatening and debilitating conditions that could be easily treated medically?
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See I never got along with this widowmaker guy because we have fundamentally difference beliefs, but he's not willing to risk the lives of others because of his beliefs. I respect that.


Widow is a softy if you put some work in. ;)
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I agree. Although I don't currently know what such an intervention would look like. Does the State come in and remove the child permanently from the family? Temporarily until the medical condition is addressed? Threaten them legally unless their child gets adequate medical attention?

What do you think?


...if removing the child from the home is required it should be done ...whether it's permanent or not depends on multiple factors that go beyond just physical health .
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Perhaps legislation should change such that it only applies to life-threatening and debilitating conditions that could be easily treated medically?


I'm sure we could cut out any circumcision prosecution
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Apr 21 2016 07:30pm
wow didnt saw this one, pretty bad ;(

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 22 Apr 2016 02:17)
...religious beliefs are not an acceptable excuse for ignoring serious health issues in ones own children especially for someone like myself who believes medical knowledge is a gift from God .


yes, good move

Btw, sorry, i checked article, even another article, and that topic... Didnt saw it: What religion exactly those parents are following ?
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