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Jan 31 2016 02:06pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jan 31 2016 03:04pm)
The internet has had the opposite effect on Christianity and other organized religion.

The ability for people to learn new and different things and expand their horizons beyond what they learned in their house from their family or town has proven problematic for Christianity in the US and other religions around the globe.

If you want more people to be saved and be Christian, you should actually not be grateful for the internet and all this information we have that is more easily accessible us with the internet.

Knowledge and better access to new information is very dangerous for religion.


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Jan 31 2016 02:09pm
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You laugh, but it is true.

Organized religion and Christianity in the US has been slowly declining over the past decades, and the invention and growth of the internet has been attributed as one of the factors to the relatively larger decline seen in the millinial generation.
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Jan 31 2016 02:10pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jan 31 2016 11:04pm)
The internet has had the opposite effect on Christianity and other organized religion.

The ability for people to learn new and different things and expand their horizons beyond what they learned in their house from their family or town has proven problematic for Christianity in the US and other religions around the globe.

If you want more people to be saved and be Christian, you should actually not be grateful for the internet and all this information we have that is more easily accessible us with the internet.

Knowledge and better access to new information is very dangerous for religion.

"I was born in a time when the majority of young people had lost faith in God, for the same reason their elders had had it – without knowing why." - Fernando Pessoa
Everyone is shaped by historical phenomena that they have no control over, and the people that are already dead aren't any dumber or smarter than any of us.

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Jan 31 2016 04:15pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jan 31 2016 07:55pm)
...nope , but I know who he is . I read a very short summary of some of his " teachings " a while back . Guys like him were a dime a dozen back in my day and I am grateful we didn't have the internet and youtube to perpetuate the silliness .


Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jan 31 2016 07:12pm)
...what a crock of failed hippie claptrap :wacko:


Shining bright as ever I see. :D Your ideas of Christ really seem to do the trick for you living your life fully in pure ease and joy, keep it up & carry on.
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Jan 31 2016 04:21pm
Quote (TidsL @ Jan 31 2016 05:15pm)
Shining bright as ever I see. :D Your ideas of Christ really seem to do the trick for you living your life fully in pure ease and joy, keep it up & carry on.


...save your hippie dippie bullshit for someone else son .
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Jan 31 2016 04:22pm
Quote (Gastly @ Jan 31 2016 10:10pm)
"I was born in a time when the majority of young people had lost faith in God, for the same reason their elders had had it – without knowing why." - Fernando Pessoa
Everyone is shaped by historical phenomena that they have no control over, and the people that are already dead aren't any dumber or smarter than any of us.


Humanity collectively can be considered more knowledgeable though.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Jan 31 2016 04:22pm
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Jan 31 2016 04:28pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jan 31 2016 04:09pm)
You laugh, but it is true.

Organized religion and Christianity in the US has been slowly declining over the past decades, and the invention and growth of the internet has been attributed as one of the factors to the relatively larger decline seen in the millinial generation.


Correlation=/=causation in that case.
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Jan 31 2016 04:39pm
Quote (Neptunus @ Feb 1 2016 01:22am)
Humanity collectively can be considered more knowledgeable though.

Fair enough. I don't really see the value of what is called knowledge, it certainly isn't smart to use knowledge to cause immense amounts of suffering.
In all likelihood knowledge will eventually amount to a smoldering hellhole of a planet - it is after all the most wicked of all animals that managed to acquire this knowledge.
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Jan 31 2016 04:42pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jan 31 2016 10:21pm)
...save your hippie dippie bullshit for someone else son .


Haha. I did, actually, but you were the one choosing to go in here and complain, so why do "you" bother? And it's not mine, nothing belongs to "me"
:D Ask yourself, who is it really that is bothered? And who decided to klick this thread more than 3 times? Was this a concious choise, or habitual and almost automatic without much space at all? Were you aware of your self while doing this? While writing that? While reading this?

This is no such "hippie dippie" thing, it might seem like religious ideas and that's why I posted it here, but this is more simple than simple. It's beyond that, yet something that seems difficult for the mind to accept and grasp, because there is nothing to grasp, no effort to make. It's about pure beingness and awareness of the made up identity, what is the self? where is the "I"? What is aware of the sense "I am". What percieves this awareness? Does your mind present you with an image of yourself? Do you believe yourself to be this image? or feeling? Then what preceded it, what observes the awareness of this idea of self?

What are you beyond identification with all imagination, all thoughts, all beliefs, all self image. What is always there, effortlessly still, silent, unchanging?

Kind of like what Eckart Tolle is talking about, but I find Mooji being more clear and direct.

This post was edited by TidsL on Jan 31 2016 04:49pm
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Jan 31 2016 04:44pm
Quote (TidsL @ Jan 31 2016 05:42pm)
Haha. I did, actually, but you were the one choosing to go in here and complain, so why do "you" bother? And it's not mine, nothing belongs to "me"


...good grief :wacko:
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