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Dec 11 2014 08:50am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/11283875/Bank-of-America-sees-50-oil-as-Opec-dies.html

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The Opec oil cartel no longer exists in any meaningful sense and crude prices will slump to $50 a barrel over the coming months as market forces shake out the weakest producers, Bank of America has warned.

Revolutionary changes sweeping the world’s energy industry will drive down the price of liquefied natural gas (LNG), creating a “multi-year” glut and a much cheaper source of gas for Europe.

Francisco Blanch, the bank’s commodity chief, said Opec is “effectively dissolved” after it failed to stabilize prices at its last meeting. “The consequences are profound and long-lasting,“ he said.


Saudi Arabia is leading the charge to maintain its market share, and they're trying to drive higher cost-of-production producers out of business. This is having profound impacts across the globe. Russia, which requires very high oil prices to break even, is losing tens of billions it can not afford to lose, calling into serious question its ability to act aggressively in the Ukraine, or holding a LNG weapon over Europe's head. Nigeria and Venezuela are being hit especially hard by falling prices Venezuela needs high prices to support a litany of public services, and a partial collapse of government is possible. The current price of oil is already pushing some high-cost shale producers in the US into the red. How long can high-cost fields maintain production while the price is low?

On the other hand, this is a major boost to the economies of the world as a whole, amounting to a roughly 1 trillion dollar tax cut equivalent worldwide. Consumers are finding more money in their pockets every month this lasts. Low oil prices are clearly good for most people, though it will impact producer's job levels in many areas.

The article somewhat seems remiss that oil price stability may be gone, but is that really a bad thing? Replacing artificially high stable prices with fluctuating markets?





On a side note, I've noted many times in PaRD that the current economic "growth" of the last 6 years is an artificial construct borne of loose monetary policy, and BoA apparently agrees in a major way:

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What is clear is that the world has become addicted to central bank stimulus. Bank of America said 56pc of global GDP is currently supported by zero interest rates, and so are 83pc of the free-floating equities on global bourses. Half of all government bonds in the world yield less that 1pc. Roughly 1.4bn people are experiencing negative rates in one form or another.

These are astonishing figures, evidence of a 1930s-style depression, albeit one that is still contained. Nobody knows what will happen as the Fed tries to break out of the stimulus trap, including Fed officials themselves.
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Dec 11 2014 09:05am
edit; just a little picture to illustrate your topic
bad and wrong side effects are easily catchable from different sources on google

hmm example fom french source

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Europe and France are clearly among the winners of the fall in crude prices ...

Yes, we know that among us, the crisis of 1973, was born of a first surge in oil prices. Today, France and Europe are less dependent bp of black gold, but the fall in prices, it's still a real lifeline, a gain that economists amounted to 0.5% of GDP in two years. This is unexpected. In France, it's a good three new one:
1 - The energy bill of France will decrease 5 billion this year 2014.
2 - For our industry, the expected gain is even greater than the effect of decreases in expenses CICE, credit competitiveness employment. We can add to that for road transport, air with Air France, or chemistry, it is a serious boost.
3 - It's good for the French too, cheaper gasoline and fuel oil, when winter comes. This could therefore boost a little the French economy.
But there are also losers and they are many.

Yes, if France, Europe, the US and China, are already taking advantage of the drop in oil prices, and much to the contrary, those whose income is heavily dependent on oil prices have hit hard .dropoff window And there among them fragile countries. Russia first: every time the price of oil down a dollar, and Russia lost more than a billion and a half of income. This is huge for an economy that is already hard hit by Western sanctions. Other major producers are also concerned: Venezuela, who lives on a volcano, Nigeria, the largest economy in Africa, already destabilized by terrorism; Iran, the sale of oil provide essential it currency which the country needs for its economy, and then more fragile still, like Iraq and Libya, which did not need that.

Finally, there is a kind of paradox: if the global economy overall will benefit in the short term the price collapse, it would not be that slow motion energy transition and the massive effort in favor of renewable energy .dropoff window There is no respite that takes in the fight against global warming.







hmm well thanks.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 11 2014 09:21am
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...and? Do you have an opinion to add to this?
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Dec 11 2014 09:08am
Seems more like the beginning of the end of the monetary system. It has been a good half a century.

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Seems more like the end of the monetary system. It has been a good half a century.


...and you know why it may be the end of the current monetary system? Because while sound money forced politicians to be shrewd with the public's finances, fiat money has allowed us to live well beyond our means for a long time. The crash will be hard, much worse than the Great Depression, and the crash would have been nearly impossible on the same scale had we had sound money.

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Dec 11 2014 09:26am
All America's fault. Incoming 2008 repeat.
This is the Canary in a coal mine right now.
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All America's fault. Incoming 2008 repeat.
This is the Canary in a coal mine right now.


America is the only country with a central bank that manipulates their currency?
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Dec 11 2014 09:29am
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America is the only country with a central bank that manipulates their currency?


It's your shale production and the saudis playing poker flooding the market putting prices down to make your high refining costs not worth it to do. And to start buying instead.

Alberta gonna feel the pinch too. But not as bad.
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Dec 11 2014 09:31am
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...and? Do you have an opinion to add to this?


i dont like it due the paradox explained in the arcticle above: alternative energies

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...and you know why it may be the end of the current monetary system? Because while sound money forced politicians to be shrewd with the public's finances, fiat money has allowed us to live well beyond our means for a long time. The crash will be hard, much worse than the Great Depression, and the crash would have been nearly impossible on the same scale had we had sound money.


Not on the same schedule but as inevitable as it is a poor system to begin with. Trying to measure qualitatively different products with the same measurement is just too problematic for us to ever get right.

Don't worry, we have reached peak oil several years ago and this probably will increase consumption and play that to its end. Meanwhile the rest of the nations have stopped producing oil because even though it is very valuable, they can't sell it, and since we're in the capitalist epoch they won't do something just because it has intrinsic worth :lol:

It isn't a crash you're thinking of that we are on the verge of, it is a change. I wonder what will come after the capitalist goes extinct?
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