Yeah see thats not how PaRD works.
You brought yourself in as a subject of scrutiny not only when you posted the topic, but when your first example used YOU as an individual as anecdotal evidence that the state is useless.



No one cares.



Now see, theres a stance, or atleast a question of value.

They had tribal governments and councils. They also lived in groups smaller than the average family (3-4 nuclear families), which is quite a lot different than a billion people packed into one shared slab of land.
Someone else already pointed out though, that while this is fine and dandy, these groups were wiped off the face of the planet by groups that formed a state together. Which circles back around to my point about your family probably not existing.

This post was edited by Mangix on Oct 29 2014 05:20pm

wich circles back around to my question, how does some still manage to do it then?!
aka zapatists or the recently discovered indigenous?!
matter of time you'll say, wich i could agree to,but not because it doesnt work, just because some other states wants control of the population or the land.

Note: theres no factual evidence on my side for what I'm about to say.

They could exist because the rest of the world has modernized and organized to a point where they don't go around murdering people when they find new land. Where as previously they would have been wiped out.
As well as if they took this long to find, they must have been pretty damn hidden from other groups.

However, look at the differences between life for said indigenous and the people that live within state held regions.
There are benefits to be found.

This post was edited by Mangix on Oct 29 2014 05:41pm

actually this is actually what the state is trying to do to the zapatists, kill em or cage them

like what beside material stuff :/

must suck to not work 40hours per week, for 40 years of your life, in order to afford an house that you leave empty all week long :/

i could agree that the level of confort is nowhere close to what we got though

This post was edited by CopBlock on Oct 29 2014 05:47pm

that carpet is not centered, what a shame

Maybe it's centered at the staircase.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 29 2014 06:07pm

maybe, maybe not?