I'm ok with introducing mandatory voter ID as long as the first time the ID's are free.

But what about the disenfranchised black man who managed to get to the government offices for his food stamps and welfare, but has literally no way to get to the DMV? What about him?

Some people don't have all day to post on jsp - there to busy with Life - Work/Marriage/Kids/School
That they even show up to vote is a miracle - requiring VALID id is just another obstacle to the poor.



peoples personal story does count as evidence - regardless of the form they take.


This post was edited by card_sultan on Oct 16 2014 02:03pm

Can't they be provided to everyone for free? How much does it cost anyway? a couple of cents per person?

As a Dutchman would say it, unfortunately peanut butter.

If you don't have valid ID you can't get a job.

The liberals are upset in TX because they only accept state issued ID, which happens to include conceal-carry licenses (because you have to prove citizenship), but not college IDs (where they do not make such consideration). On its face, it seems blatantly partisan, but is completely logical given the citizenship check done prior to issuing those IDs.

In WI, they only put a stay on the law because it's too close to the election.

not true - maybe with some jobs - I know my brother had out of Province ID for years, and still found work easy.

There are many situations which can make your ID not valid and alot of employers need the work done more than they care about id

You can start up your own business without valid id too.

so this would be evidence to you?

i made it for duffman to show him how illogical it is to consider tweets evidence, it took longer to upload the image than to alter the text in chrome.







It also takes about 15 seconds to make a new twitter account to post things.

Tweets are far from "evidence"

Though I feel I should add that YES personal stories are evidence, so a hand written letter/complain to the BOE, an interview with someone, etc are valid. Though, a tweet is not anything to base judgement of a law off of.

This post was edited by Mangix on Oct 16 2014 02:36pm

not a scenario likely to happen often, or for much longer at that.

-The first tweet could be problematic, ill agree. but with any photo id an some form of government, even if temporary, that should be enough.
-second photo kinda upsets me though. i may be wrong, but you typically have to be a resident of the county in which youre voting in. if youre in a state and haven made it a point to get the state id you now reside in, thats your fault. however, being that it is a government issued form of ID, it should be fine for proving your elegibility.
-third tweet ill also agree is stupid. funny side story, i couldnt order a beer with an expired ID at a restuarant. when it came time to pay, i told them to check my id. I refused to pay as my ID was expired they couldnt identify me properly. once their logic backfired on them, they vowed a change in policy and gave me my meal free.
-same as above somewhere.


I'm not saying they need to be as drastic as some of the above examples, but theres no reason to not have some form of government issues ID, be it an ID, License, Military ID, etc.