"If you remove the suffering you remove the passion"... this is something that people repeatedly argue with me when I outline my thoughts on the future, and I think it's fundamentally wrong. Chronically depressed people are far more likely to have no motivation or passion for anything, whereas those few lucky people who are chronically cheerful tend to be the most motivated and most passionate. This idea that suffering is beneficial is an archaic idea and hopefully more will realize that soon.

Brave New World is a work of fiction and is incredibly unlikely. As we know, new technology rapidly decreases in price until even the poverty-stricken have access to it. There certainly are risks to technological progress, but I don't see a Brave New World scenario to be one of them.



When some of these forms of life suffer from debilitating chronic depression or have to experience the pain of being tortured and disemboweled alive, one can see pretty clearly that life can be improved.

'mericans are dumb

Maybe instead of rallying against stem cell research, people could rally towards harvesting stem cells from other sources. For example, encourage donations of cord blood after birth and build up the infrastructure for collecting, processing, and storing the blood.

Besides, I think the whole movement is retarded. It implies that people get abortions for the sake of donating stem cells, and that killing stem cell research will somehow reduce the number of abortions. This is quite obviously false.

No it's not. Atheists do this all the time. There's an atheist cult in Louisiana which kidnaps pregnant women and cuts their babies out of their stomachs before putting the half dead foetuses into a sausage mincer to extract the stem cells!

Nuh uh, they mostly do it to make baby burgers, they just process stem cells out of the offal and left-overs. The burgers are used for satanic rituals, but are also high in protein and taste great. Even if stem cell research dies, these guys will still want ground foetuses on a bun.

Those damned atheists have gone too far this time! To the Godmobile!!!

It's making the most of a horrid situation for the benefit of all mankind in the hopes of medical advances. Perhaps some abortions for medical reasons may be avoided in the future with sufficient stem cell research. Either way, opposing stem cell research will do nothing to stop abortions, so it's a completely pointless, nonsensical tactic. You might as well parade your "abortion is murder" signs outside a dog grooming shop or a lemonade stand. Even if you get these establishments closed down, you haven't furthered your cause by an inch.