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Jul 12 2014 08:25pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 12 2014 10:05pm)
Infanticide is extremely common in nature, doesn't make it right.
The law should serve what is right and what is wrong, it should not abide any warped views of naturalists or social darwinists or scalia-esque textualism nor originalism.


We all agree infanticide is wrong, but what does make a relation between two adult of same family wrong exactly ?

The law should not follow religion beliefs as well to answer @ bolded text




This post was edited by 2sexy4u on Jul 12 2014 08:25pm
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Jul 12 2014 08:39pm
Quote (2sexy4u @ Jul 12 2014 08:25pm)
We all agree infanticide is wrong, but what does make a relation between two adult of same family wrong exactly ?

The law should not follow religion beliefs as well to answer @ bolded text


Nothing, thats the point I'm making.
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Jul 12 2014 08:40pm
Quote (2sexy4u @ Jul 12 2014 10:25pm)
We all agree infanticide is wrong, but what does make a relation between two adult of same family wrong exactly ?


I think that was his point, it being natural does not mean it should be legal.
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Jul 12 2014 10:34pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 12 2014 09:05pm)
Infanticide is extremely common in nature, doesn't make it right.
The law should serve what is right and what is wrong, it should not abide any warped views of naturalists or social darwinists or scalia-esque textualism nor originalism.


Scalia is undoubtedly the best justice currently on the Court.
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Jul 12 2014 11:12pm
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Scalia is undoubtedly the best justice currently on the Court.


Scalia is a moron. What a bunch of outdated and ignorant slave owners drummed up inbetween pints of hardened cider is merely a basis for a system of law, not its purpose and ultimate destination. Its a crude means to an end.
It doesn't matter one iota what anyone wrote nor intended, only what is right and wrong and to hammer out those find edges to best serve the public good.
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Jul 13 2014 12:24am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 13 2014 01:12am)
Scalia is a moron. What a bunch of outdated and ignorant slave owners drummed up inbetween pints of hardened cider is merely a basis for a system of law, not its purpose and ultimate destination. Its a crude means to an end.
It doesn't matter one iota what anyone wrote nor intended, only what is right and wrong and to hammer out those find edges to best serve the public good.


Law does not serve right vs wrong .... Law is a means of controlling society and keeping it cohesive and obedient.



On the topic at hand ... I think incest is disgusting and revolting and has no place in society ... But if a grown man and woman or man and man or woman and woman etc consent and want to do some strange shit in their bedroom ... I don't think it's anyone to legislate the conditions of that sexual encounter based upon the fact that they are related ... I'd hate if someone decided my sexual activities were illegal because they disagree with them.... So i could never support doing it to someone else.
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Jul 13 2014 12:35am
if gay is acceptable, I dont see why incest is such a big deal.
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Jul 13 2014 12:59am
Ah the old incest topic.

Incest isn't a huge deal between consenting partners. It's also very common. Most studies on the topic say a sizable minority of people have engaged in or had thoughts of incest, for the most part bring consensual. It's a taboo but not really a prosecutable offense unless accompanied by sexual assault.

That's a few things we should agree on. Cousin incest isn't an issue (almost no health risk for children). More controversial, taboo as wrong is based on subjective morality, you cannot say it is objectively wrong in a vacuum. When it is associated with child abuse yes but it is not inherently that.

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Jul 13 2014 02:18am
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Ah the old incest topic.

Incest isn't a huge deal between consenting partners. It's also very common. Most studies on the topic say a sizable minority of people have engaged in or had thoughts of incest, for the most part bring consensual. It's a taboo but not really a prosecutable offense unless accompanied by sexual assault.

That's a few things we should agree on. Cousin incest isn't an issue (almost no health risk for children). More controversial, taboo as wrong is based on subjective morality, you cannot say it is objectively wrong in a vacuum. When it is associated with child abuse yes but it is not inherently that.


Child abuse is objectively wrong though, right?
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Jul 13 2014 02:26am
If you vote no you are a troll.
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