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Apr 10 2012 09:22am
Quote (CraZeeY @ Apr 10 2012 04:10am)
There's a reason to why all matchups are classed as "hard" or "tedious", the build sucks. Any char with max block will rape it and any char that has decent fcr frames will rape it. NO bear-char is EVER any good vs other than retards.


I feel like you should read the strategies more thoroughly. Only a few characters are listed as difficult and tedious and they're the fpk characters that roam pubs. The build works fine vs just about anything you put it up against if you know how to duel. I stated at the beginning of this guide that this was not a fpk character. If you want one of those, I suggest you go back to the stickies and find yourself a hdin guide.
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Apr 10 2012 09:33am
Quote (wooliebooger @ Apr 10 2012 05:22pm)
I feel like you should read the strategies more thoroughly. Only a few characters are listed as difficult and tedious and they're the fpk characters that roam pubs. The build works fine vs just about anything you put it up against if you know how to duel. I stated at the beginning of this guide that this was not a fpk character. If you want one of those, I suggest you go back to the stickies and find yourself a hdin guide.


hdin isnt a fpk char :P
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Apr 10 2012 09:34am
Quote (wooliebooger @ Apr 10 2012 04:22pm)
I feel like you should read the strategies more thoroughly. Only a few characters are listed as difficult and tedious and they're the fpk characters that roam pubs. The build works fine vs just about anything you put it up against if you know how to duel. I stated at the beginning of this guide that this was not a fpk character. If you want one of those, I suggest you go back to the stickies and find yourself a hdin guide.


Every single matchup is rated as either "hard", "tedious" or "easy vs some hard vs some".
Hdin isn't a FPK char, when you stated that you showed us that you have no clue about PvP.
I'm one of EU's top Javazons, I know how Amazons work and this won't.

Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Apr 10 2012 04:11pm)
They're actually great in melee vs melee

Ama passive skills basically give:
* auto - 72% critical
* auto - 55% dodge rate
* auto - mega AR
* even maxing inner sight is fucking ridiculous in melee vs melee

With these parameters, a bearzon doesn't need to focus on all the usual deadly strike shit, they can wear alternative gear that is used to great effect due to such high crit

If I made a bearzon, it would be specifically for melee (lulz)
and it would be this:


* 20 crit
* 20 dodge
* 20 evasion
* 20 penetrate
* 20 inner sight

You have any idea what this is capable of with proper gear swaps? ^^
If you know how to WSG, a bearzon is nasty shit in melee


You do know that the main reason smiters slam Amazons is because they dodge-lock you, right? I can no other than think that zealers will slam this char to oblivion.
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Apr 10 2012 09:35am
Quote (Bojana @ Apr 10 2012 10:33am)
hdin isnt a fpk char :P


fair enough :p fixed

Quote (wooliebooger @ Apr 10 2012 10:22am)
I feel like you should read the strategies more thoroughly. Only a few characters are listed as difficult and tedious and they're the fpk characters that roam pubs. The build works fine vs just about anything you put it up against if you know how to duel. I stated at the beginning of this guide that this was not a fpk character. If you want a generic pub character, I suggest you go back to the stickies and find yourself a hdin guide.


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Apr 10 2012 09:37am
Quote (CraZeeY @ Apr 10 2012 11:34am)
Every single matchup is rated as either "hard", "tedious" or "easy vs some hard vs some".
Hdin isn't a FPK char, when you stated that you showed us that you have no clue about PvP.
I'm one of EU's top Javazons, I know how Amazons work and this won't.



You do know that the main reason smiters slam Amazons is because they dodge-lock you, right? I can no other than think that zealers will slam this char to oblivion.


You're ignorantly not paying attention to the part about WSGing

Do you know what WSGing is?

If not, you need to take a seat

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Apr 10 2012 09:37am
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Quote (CraZeeY @ Apr 10 2012 10:34am)
Every single matchup is rated as either "hard", "tedious" or "easy vs some hard vs some".
Hdin isn't a FPK char, when you stated that you showed us that you have no clue about PvP.
I'm one of EU's top Javazons, I know how Amazons work and this won't.



You do know that the main reason smiters slam Amazons is because they dodge-lock you, right? I can no other than think that zealers will slam this char to oblivion.


I'm glad you think you're one of EU's top javazons, but no one cares. This is a different type of build all together. If you can't figure out how to use it well then maybe you should reevaluate how to duel with melee characters that do not teleport.
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Apr 10 2012 09:39am
Quote (CraZeeY @ Apr 10 2012 04:34pm)
I'm one of EU's top Javazons.


buahaha who the hell are you?
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Apr 10 2012 09:40am
I'm. Eu's #1 jav son
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Apr 10 2012 09:53am
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Apr 10 2012 04:37pm)
You're ignorantly not paying attention to the part about WSGing

Do you know what WSGing is?

If not, you need to take a seat


You do know that once you're dodge-locked you can't wsg out of it.. you're locked. You can however WSG before you get hit and thus keep from getting dodge-locked in the first place but that would result in you WSGing the entire match which means you won't attack.
Take a seat.
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Apr 10 2012 10:08am
Quote (CraZeeY @ Apr 10 2012 04:53pm)
You do know that once you're dodge-locked you can't wsg out of it.. you're locked. You can however WSG before you get hit and thus keep from getting dodge-locked in the first place but that would result in you WSGing the entire match which means you won't attack.
Take a seat.


you can wsg out of everything
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