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Sep 4 2006 09:11pm
The FhR lock is if you're shooting at her.
You do more than just a bit less damage when you take off the beast. 1st off, Fury has lower damage than Beast. 2nd, you lose the huge str mod. 3rd, you lose the huge damage from Fanat. You lose a lot of damage.
5 hits is more than you think. And if you've ever paid attention in a duel you would know that 40 seconds really is a very long time.
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Sep 5 2006 01:11pm
Anyone making Fire Sorc nowadays?
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Sep 5 2006 01:28pm
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The FhR lock is if you're shooting at her.
You do more than just a bit less damage when you take off the beast. 1st off, Fury has lower damage than Beast. 2nd, you lose the huge str mod. 3rd, you lose the huge damage from Fanat. You lose a lot of damage.
5 hits is more than you think. And if you've ever paid attention in a duel you would know that 40 seconds really is a very long time.


Whatever, Fury is there for the OW it adds. The str% is only 38 on my beast. 38/865 = 0.04393, so I lose 4.3% damage via STR. Then I also lose 186 / 865 = 0.2150, so in totals I lose 25.8% damage, but I gain 66% OW.

5 hits is less than 300 arrows, that's all that counts. Heck, namelocking with guided alone can get me 5 hits (as the guideds will follow the target when namelocked).

And I've paid attentions to duels and in publics they last from 5 seconds to 10 minutes depending from the way your opponent duels and if it's BM or GM. And yes, dueling a defensive desynch medi abusing hammerdin CAN take easily 10 minutes, whereas dueling a full mav bowazon takes ~10 seconds if they got kb.
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Sep 5 2006 08:14pm
I can't think of any duel with a Fireball sorc that lasted over 2 minutes ever. And that definately wasn't VS. a barb.

So what if 5 hits is less than 300 arrows. It's not like you're gonna have time to shoot 300 arrows? I'm saying that, sure, all you need is 5 hits, but there's a good chance you won't actually get 5 hits. Also, there's a good chance that even after you get five hits, you will be dead within the 8 seconds of the 5th hit.
8 seconds is a very long time to be getting shot at by Fireballs.
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Sep 6 2006 08:45am
Sup.

I have a 105fcr fire sorc and i need advices.

I have more 20 points to distribution in skills and i have 3 options:

1) max TK; (I have lvl 20 with plus skills (shako, sojs...))

2) max ES; (I have lvl 24 with plus skills (shako, sojs...))

3) put 10 in ES and 10 in TK.

I have 366 stats to distribution and my atual life is 1444 with bo and 3555 mana.
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Sep 6 2006 08:57am
Quote (Cako @ Wed, Sep 6 2006, 02:45pm)
Sup.

I have a 105fcr fire sorc and i need advices.

I have more 20 points to distribution in skills and i have 3 options:

1) max TK; (I have lvl 20 with plus skills (shako, sojs...))

2) max ES; (I have lvl 24 with plus skills (shako, sojs...))

3) put 10 in ES and 10 in TK.

I have 366 stats to distribution and my atual life is 1444 with bo and  3555 mana.


Choose 3. Only hard points help Telekinesis, +skills do not.

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So what if 5 hits is less than 300 arrows. It's not like you're gonna have time to shoot 300 arrows? I'm saying that, sure, all you need is 5 hits, but there's a good chance you won't actually get 5 hits. Also, there's a good chance that even after you get five hits, you will be dead within the 8 seconds of the 5th hit.
8 seconds is a very long time to be getting shot at by Fireballs.


Defensive play. You really think that there's a rule which says barbarian's cannot play defensive? Heck, with the setup I'm having here, you could hit the 63% FCR breakpoint and tele at 9 frames and attack at 4 (which is quicker than a 200% FCR FBer shoots two FBs (7+7 = 14, 9 + 4 = 13, 14- 13 = 1). Also, the barbarian can use something like this:

Artisan's Circlet of the Magus (3 socks, +20% FCR, socketed with 3 vexes)
Enigma
2* 'Um' Wizspikes
Widowmaker on switch
2* Dstars
Dracul's
OW belt
Rising sun.

results: 95% FR, high stacked, 35% OW on arrows, 65% on wizspikes, 105% FCR, high absorb, widowmaker, etc.

This turns an unrealistic 23k fb into a +70 life to the BvC per hit. This means the sorc cannot possibly win. If the sorc whines about over-absorbing, the BvC can take off his Hotspurs for Goreriders and still have 90% FR. This makes a 23k FB into a 26 damage FB. So the sorc cannot win (needs ~240 FBs to kill a BvC).

See?

This post was edited by olba on Sep 6 2006 09:05am
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As I said, there are extreme builds that will make it nearly impossible (or totally impossible) for the sorc to win. As I also said, these builds are considered BM. My chars are all for GM duels.

@ Cako:
I would stat points into Telekenesis until you have 16 base point there (the skills from gear/charms don't provide the synergy to ES), as this provides a 1:1 ratio of health to mana, and then put the rest in Energy Shield until you have a high % (90% or better is what I go for. you can go for 95% if you want). Then put the rest of your skills back into Telekensis.
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I no longer have a fire sorc. My acct got banned. I will still be here to answer questions for you, but I can't duel anyone and I can't give exact numbers cause I can't check anymore.
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Sep 6 2006 10:13pm
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As I said, there are extreme builds that will make it nearly impossible (or totally impossible) for the sorc to win. As I also said, these builds are considered BM. My chars are all for GM duels.


Now, let's see, you reduce all melee damage into 3.75% or 1.875% (depending if you have DR%) of what it really is after PvP penalty.

I would reduce all fire damage you do into less than 2.45%. However, you got the advantage as you can easily stay out of range so I'm forced to attack you. So you should be happy that you can even damage me (as it's not like 3.75% out of 1000 is as much as 2.45% out of 3230, it's actually almost exactly double).

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I no longer have a fire sorc. My acct got banned. I will still be here to answer questions for you, but I can't duel anyone and I can't give exact numbers cause I can't check anymore.


And the reason would be? MH? Nightlight? AA? Bots?

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Sep 6 2006 11:22pm
I never used any hacks. I ran a bot for a few days on my h-din while i was away cause I really wanted level 95 and I got lazy cause I kept dying. Never used MH or Nightlight (i still don't even know what Nightlight does) and AA was always a noobish hack. AAers are easier than legit duelers.
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