with ur spray and spam defensive tactics and mass bmanas i would use hotspurs with pleasure

Well, too bad that there's no Bmanas on EU. That would make my BvC a king (GG@840 mana with pubsetup with 2x 70/15s).

u dont want that, bmanas makes sorces almost a tank, takes too much efford than legit ones

W/E, Fury on primary>ES kthnx.

100% OW on guided arrows makes it fun. Let's say 10 hits at most (which I even doubt, would require ~5400ish life).

Someone told me 75% was cap for Open Wounds?

Throw on hspurs. It's easy to take barbs wearing hspurs. It's just that when they have hspurs + rising sun or hspurs + dwarf (with vex arreats) like he is suggesting then it's kind of a pointless duel.

and no max block sorc with 6k mana and high % ES is gonna be scared of a barb. that's just silly.

100% OW, the fact that the mods of the weapon in-use at the moment the arrow hits, the fact that OW goes straight to life makes ES sorcs a cake. Fury + Dracul's give 91% OW. With a widowmaker on switch you can go around firing 91% OW arrows. 91 cases out of 100 they will trigger OW. And yes, that WILL kill ANY ES sorc. Be is 6k, 2k, or 10k mana. Their mana does not matter, their life does. I already said 10 hits most, which is ~5k OW damage, and I doubt an ES sorc reaching 5k life when I doubt a pure one coming even close.

Honestly, do you think you're gonna get 10 hits on a sorc with a Widowmaker barb? Any sorc that lets you get even 5-6 hits is bad. Sorcs don't really get hit by bows that much. That's what makes bowzons so easy (even with multishot). Sure you can get a ton of OW on your arrows, but if the arrows don't hit the sorc then it won't make a difference.

I'm NOT talking about a Bowarian, I'm talking about a BvC using Widowmaker to trigger OW. And if the sorc plans to get even a hit in, she has to tank a little bit, which in turn makes it easy to hit her with either WW or GA.

So if the sorc wants to get close and you're on Widow, you will get a few hits in (3 at MOST) before she has a chance to unload on you (probably ready to cause an FHR lock with her fbs and rain hell). If she gets close and you switch to Ww you're kinda screwed. No matter what you do, you're gonna have weak WW with Fury equipped. You may get a hit with OW in with fury on the WW, but she'll have time to unload quite a few FBs on you while you're WWing. Either way, you don't really have enough time to kill her (not time for enough shots. not time for enough WWs) before she takes you down pretty quick.

Who said I will need to tank her? I can just teleport away and Leap for 8 seconds and re-do.

And WW is uninterruptable, cannot be locked in FHR.

And with Fury on Primary and Grief on secondary I do do damage, but it's just a little lower than with Grief+Beast.

Also, with Hotspurs, the sorc does at MOST 323 damage per FB (counting 19k damage), which needs 19 FBs to kill my BvC. Whereas I need 8*5=40 seconds and 5 hits to kill the sorc (unless she somehow manages to have 6k mana, max blocking and >2600 life).