d2 is full of glitches, tricks, exploits... you didn't test it yourself. care to tell me where/when/how you tested it? if you do test, test grief+grief compared to botd+grief you will see very quickly which is better.
and no offense "Faulk" you're opinion means shit all to me, mcm keeps riddling off to me damages of axes, which i said before/after aren't what i'm refering to.

you really aren't contributing anything to this post except you keep spamming "PROVE IT." you don't realise i used beast+botd, and grief+beast the second they became availible on NL to me. i know whats good, i prefer zerking in duels so i will always use that setup on my main bvc. when i make my team barb i plan to stack a bit of poison, i'm going to use botd+grief as main and rely on ow's on dracs. it will be the most effective setup out of any grief/botd/beast/fury/malice/fleshripper/doom/kingslayer combo

not 1 person can legitimatly tell me they tested dual wield griefs with +30 str off base, or botd+grief, and found it to be bad. it dominates druids/sorcs.

honestly, mcm you are acting like a retard. as for the other randoms in this post, gtfo.

mcm u go and take a frap or w/e u did of you testing, and you say LOOK W/ ELE DMG DS WORKS, no shit thats WHAT menzo, he said with fire dmg ds worked but w/o it, it didnt work while WW'ing.

marvel and menzo also talked about how ebotd + grief hit more than grief + grief or grief + beast. get it right ><

All i hear for you MARVEL and w/e wannabe's is beating arrownd the bushes and by now you already have different statement compared to what you started with ...maybe because you realize you are totaly wrong...

But hey i say Earth is square, sun is green white is black and it is so because i say so , prove me wrong pls

Why dont you guys go play in the pool wth the kids? Oh wait , you will get owned there too

well 1st of.



btw why would u use ebotdz+grief setup??

ok u gain life n some shit but u lack whats really helpfull with grief+beast:

Ow.
And mass ar,

here itself it explains that its impossible for grief +ebotdz hit more than grief +beast.

howcome More AR with Grief+Beast WOULD HIT LESS than LESS AR with Ebotdz +Grief
???
Ww speed doesnt change,

bc ebotdz+Grief ias isnt higher than grief+Beast (fana gives enough speed to be higher than ebotdz+grief)


AND MCM PLZZZZZZZZZZ TEST THE SAME thing with DS that way:

swap fire dmg sc with lite or cold dmg sc.

and lets see if ds weapons will hit = to non ds.

as Menzo claims DS works only with fire so try it with any other element like lite or cold and make a movie to shut them up plz

This post was edited by og_loc_resurection on Jul 4 2006 08:46pm

Did that too, and I'm sure nobody is surprised to learn that you three are wrong again. So much for Menzo's random theorycrafting.

I've still yet to hear anyone suggest why EBOTD attacks more often than GRIEF. Once you put your hypothesis on the table I can test that too and you will very quickly see how wrong you and your friends are, again. So far all Marvel has mentioned is a random anecdote of "this one time" someone WW'd a bowzon, and vague preferences based on no fact whatsoever.

You guys should consider attending high school. They teach this stuff there you know.. critical thinking and the scientific method.

and DS bullshit can be proven ezly by just 1v1ing any char for like 10 duels.

explain this plz:

howcome sometimes i land hits lets say it takes 1/3life of a player most of the time

and there happens to be that one hit to take 3/4-4/5 of his life??

simply=DS and Critical

AND 1 MORE TO MARVEL or MENZO:

why would u say" use 37x 32020s u don need fhr scs" in some of the posts above?

1st of u need this fhr to brake from bonespirits and other usefull situations.

2nd of why 37x?? dont u need fire sc for ds to work??

my point is ur contradicting urself sir.

u dont keep up with what u saying.= theorycrafting some shit

This post was edited by og_loc_resurection on Jul 4 2006 08:57pm

cool beans, and btw, making a video of exactly what menzo said isn't really proving him wrong, he knows it works with fire, he didn't no if it worked without.

people can use what they want, i don't give a flying fuck. i know what works in dueling, i know what doesn't.

ok i got another question then, lets suppose botd hits more, then why would you use grief/botd and not botd/botd if botd hits more?

you're REALLY talking to the wrong people about how to use a barb/necro. you don't need "fhr" to escape spirits. they don't stun you mid run long enough for a second one to hit, idiot.

lets say you needed fire to cast ds, using 1 fire SC still won't cancel out the damage of 2 ravens. he knows that, so didn't even attempt to use fire. and FYI, i use one flaming small charm of vita on every barb/zon i've ever made, for a different reason, but still. you can go read old pvp posts, people said i stacked fire on my barb / zon. i used it to stun up close zvz, as billy said "THE ART OF STUN"