OK, but I think you give them far too much credit. Overrunning a poorly organized and motivated army like Iraq's, which is still in its infancy is not the same task as wearing down a supremely advanced, trained, equipped and motivated army.

...and I think you are underestimating the potential threat from ISIS to forward the Libertarian ideal of isolationism

Can't argue with numbers and there are hundreds of thousands of fighters estimated to be there. And these guys are trained, equipped, and very motivated. Meanwhile Israel utterly failed to achieve their objectives in their past two wars and their citizens are so traumatized from their government's belligerence and blowback that their public spaces are empty.

One startling fact: Israel's enemies fired the last shots of the past two wars they were involved in. They have no control over the situation they're in.

...the arch conservative and the bleeding heart liberal have found common ground against the fad of libertarianism

Politics sure is a funny thing

...common ground bro , common ground . I liken linertarianism to a political jack-in-the-box . The music of " pop goes the weasel " is always playing "and every couple of years the lid pops open and out pops a Lyndon LaRouche or a Ross Perot and then a Ron Paul so we band together and push him back into the colorful box and the music starts again . ( sorry Sanatara )





This post was edited by WidowMaKer_MK on Sep 5 2014 06:00am

Keep waving that flag and mocking what it stands for and the principles the country was founded on.
Individual liberty and peace are not a "fad"

They are if you're a christian. They don't want individual liberty or peace. They want war against the infidels.

..I gotta shoop Ron Paul's head onto this

And yet its an existential threat to the US? What are you saying?