The thing is there's nothing to respond to here. I could tell you that you're wrong on just about everything, because you fundamentally know nothing about the field, but you wouldn't take it in, because you know nothing about the field.

Few years ago when i was still in school i began too but it was too long of a read with work, school and everything else so i only got like 1/4 thru it before having to return it to the library lol. I remember it being very verbose, not in a bad way though. I think i'll give it another shot when i finish the current book i'm on.



Dude i'm not trying to minimize or diminish your studies. I love science and i find it fascinating, just don't put other disciplines down. Doing that reveals more about you than the person you're attempting to put down.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 6 2017 07:36pm

You could put in a million hours and you'd never be a Feynman either. What does that have to do with the cost of eggs in china?

Another thing that you need to be able to do in the example of OChem is picture a 3 dimensional molecule in your mind, and be able to rotate that that molecule to determine the R/S characteristics of it.

You can say that it is simple blah blah blah all you want but I went to the chemistry department chairs office hours to get help with it and he was even struggling on some stuff. This is a guy with a PhD in bio-chem who took graduate level organic and has had tenure at two different universities (moved because of wifes career).

It really doesn't matter how many times that you say something is simple or just about anyone can learn it yatta yatta. There are many students that just can't.

This is just one subject too. Human Anatomy/Physiology and Bio-Chem (first term) had literally around 30-40% of the students on the day of the final as there were after the first week of class...and these are classes that take a couple years of hard science classes to even get into...meaning that the 60% of students who couldn't hack it in the prereqs weren't even counted in this.

Funny thing is every time I asked my professors if this was normal (it just seemed weird to me) and they said that more or less every term is the same.


Writing is something that takes creativity...and I imagine that writing a good book does take a lot of forward thinking and intellect. Don't get me wrong, when I read stuff like the Wheel of Time series or Game of Thrones I definitely appreciate the skill and dedication required to make those the marvels that I believe them to be (meaning that I think they are good books)...but as far as how simple/easy you seem to believe the hard sciences are...I don't think your analysis of it could be further from the truth.

It means "I can fully comprehend and understand these works and think that they're great, whereas even grasping a loose understanding of Feynman is way too hard, therefore the former is probably better."

I mean

If I had to guess.

I think the issue is he really believes that anyone could learn the hard sciences.

That is not the case.

I also think it's funny he keeps acting like "Well if you had 2 years to learn a 12 week O Chem Quarter, you could totally do it" when part of the struggle with doing the hard sciences is that you literally only have 2-3 weeks to learn this complicated shit and then you are tested on it.

Fuck, give me 4353426 hours to write a good book and I bet I could do it easier than I could learn a years worth of graduate level bio/chem/physics/math.

I highly doubt that.

I'm not talking about splitting the atom here or doing research that will earn a nobel prize in physics. I'v been thru college and i'v seen people get thru science degrees. Never with ease but they did, you act as if it takes some special capacity for intellect to be able to pass these courses, it does not. The average human being, dedicated and driven enough can pass these courses. The school i went had massive amounts of Asians doing quite well in these fields. It's not because these Asian students are somehow genetically superior, allowing them to maintain & understand the information better. It's literally because they would spend 8+ hours of studying. The science courses you listed are only hard because so much is compressed in a very short time, so naturally many people flunk out that are not ready or dedicated enough to spend their lives studying.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 6 2017 07:57pm

It really just comes down to the fact that they are both completely illiterate in the sciences. The funny thing is they got all defensive over something that isn't a controversial statement. Administrators above department level at universities ensure majors like English are easy to retain students.

okay

fuckin hypocrite

This post was edited by ChrisKz on Jan 6 2017 07:59pm