Quote (ChrisKz @ Jan 6 2017 06:24pm)

Most degrees are a joke on the bachelor level, only spoken of that way in comparison to their graduate or doctorate counterparts.... Smart people are smart no matter what they take, and will exceed and make those things seem easy. Having to memorize shit through long study hours doesn't make something hard, instead it proves how easy it is and how anybody can do it.

Math, physics, chemistry... How is any of this critical thinking on any level in terms of bachelor level classes? You don't do research... You test things that we already know are true...

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 6 2017 06:25pm)

Nothing wrong with English majors. Stop trying to pretend that you are smarter than others. Just because you're getting a science/technical degree doesn't make you any smarter than someone taking something like English. You regurgitate information handed to you on a silver platter by your teachers & textbooks, not much critical thinking there. I respect, appreciate and value science but don't be a snob thinking you're superior to others.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2017 05:29pm)

I love when people who have no idea what's in the curriculum try to criticize it. When you say the hard Sciences are just memorizing you might as well just be typing Herp Derp I have never taken a science class above introductory-level.

However you're right, I'm not smart because I'm getting a technical degree, I'm smart because I'm smart. My major has nothing to do with that.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jan 6 2017 05:22pm)

Yes, that's definitely a single sentence in a 27 page study which totally undercuts the conclusions that while there's a lot more data to be had, there are very good reasons to point to racism as part of the disparity.

But hey, why bother reading or learning anything today? You can just dive through, find a sentence that kinda sorta ambiguously agrees with you, and then pretend that you have any idea what the fuck you're talking about.

It's funny how I made you mad enough to read it and then take its conclusions seriously enough to quote, tho. I thought there was nothing to be learned from a study from 2000?

My self esteem derives from the fact that I'm brilliant, incredibly attractive and have a huge penis. I argue on the Internet because it's fun. Feel free to join the fan club and talk about me as a person coz you can't address facts tho, send your FG dues to ChrisKz.



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It's how us terrible, terrible cyberbullies roll. :(



Again, you're an English major who's about to graduate and who can barely type coherent English.

This is pretty much just projection at this point. :(

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 6 2017 05:25pm)

Nothing wrong with English majors. Stop trying to pretend that you are smarter than others. Just because you're getting a science/technical degree doesn't make you any smarter than someone taking something like English. You regurgitate information handed to you on a silver platter by your teachers & textbooks, not much critical thinking there. I respect, appreciate and value science but don't be a snob thinking you're superior to others.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 6 2017 06:34pm)

Yes, i'v never taken any science courses in college nor do i have friends that are getting science degrees. It's not like i was a bio-chem* major in high school and took 8 science courses in 4 years.

If we're talking about undergrad, pray do tell what groundbreaking science work you've done? Did you not memorize a bunch of things and apply them in the way you were taught?

If someone came up to me and told me, you have 5 years to either learn how to write prose or 5 years to be ready to do research in the science field, i would choose the latter in a heartbeat because it's much easier of a task.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2017 07:45pm)

Don't get me wrong there's definitely memorizing and science courses, but memorizing basically gets you to a C.

I never said you do groundbreaking research as an undergrad, I said you did research. Believe It or Not research involves a lot of critical thinking and creativity even if it isn't groundbreaking. This might come as a surprise but 99% of all research isn't groundbreaking, and groundbreaking research tends to get overturned.

Also you don't become a master of writing prose as an English major, frequently you just do a small amount of work and get a degree. So your comparison is flawed.

Quote (Perseverance1 @ Jan 6 2017 05:41pm)

uhhh.........If that is really how you think science academics work then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you my friend. Even the smartest people in these classes struggle with the information being given to them, and have to spend a lot of extra time in office hours trying to figure the information "handed on a silver platter" out.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2017 05:45pm)

Don't get me wrong there's definitely memorizing and science courses, but memorizing basically gets you to a C.

I never said you do groundbreaking research as an undergrad, I said you did research. Believe It or Not research involves a lot of critical thinking and creativity even if it isn't groundbreaking. This might come as a surprise but 99% of all research isn't groundbreaking, and groundbreaking research tends to get overturned.

Also you don't become a master of writing prose as an English major, frequently you just do a small amount of work and get a degree. So your comparison is flawed.

Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jan 6 2017 06:46pm)

It's also funny because Chris is the one that constantly brings up his english major as if it will ward off any criticism for how he posts.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Jan 2017 20:46)

I know it's not easy, nor am i claiming it's easy. All i'm saying is with enough time it can be learned. I took one math course during my first bachelors and i used to be dreadfully scared of math. Now i'm taking calculus and i'm going for math-heavy degree. On the other if you would of asked me to write a book that's not absolute trash it might take me a lifetime to do so.



Most of the time at the undergrad level the only creativity you are doing is zeroing in on exactly what field/sub field you will focus your studies on. Of course if you are a molecular biologist, you pretty much know what sub field you will be focusing your studies in grad school. You use previously established methods of research and you build your research on work that has largely already been established. If you are some true genius, you will make a mark in graduate school not in undergraduate so spare me the creativity you do in undergrad when you're just deciding exactly what you want to study.