Thank you very much - damn yes you helped me.

It was just the same explanation I expected because this theroy you just verified for me was exactly like I supposed the 'upgrade' to be.
It was the only logical explanation to me how this high defense armors could possibly be created.

thank you very much.


nbg

Really thanks for this guide, I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that can use this.

There were indeed a lot of questing conserning this topic, how to make such armor etc.

Thanks & keep up the good work ^^

ps:

about that def bonus you explained a few posts below, I didn't knew that. thx !

902 is max on sacreds...

601= is max on norm. 601+15%=691 def for no eth

M8 1st of all a clean sacred armor white have 600 def Max

Check here

This was quoted from a TRUSTED site (I ll not mention the name)

2nd u have put 601+15%=691 ....but that is for superior (15% ed armors) and IMO its not 601 but 600 so Sup 15ed will have 690 def.

I ll repeat again that the "glicth" doens t work on superior items

Cheers

This post was edited by Souforte on Oct 19 2005 12:45pm

i had a 691def non eth sacred.. when rolled for coh its 1111 def.

in the last post for these recipes the one guy had a 902def eth sacred and glitched it for 1353 def. i will have dude post or get a ss of the 15% 691 def scared

i never said it works in superior armors/shields

I think the line i marked with size=3 is a common misconception ...

All the people think - just why some uniques or some sets have exactly 'ony point more base defense' than the normal items of these classes - they think the normal class items without the unique or set bonus can have the same.

For example Herald of Zakarum has always 169 base def
zakarum shield as a non-unique item has max 168 base def

THIS IS THE CASE FOR ALL UNIQUE ARMOR ITEMS ! (unique has always one more point base defense than its normal item class item... - I think this goes for set, too - maybe u had seen IK armor unid which had 601 base def ... so you thought 601 is max. but this is not the case)

If u understand German you can read about this in my unique upgrade guide that is in the German forums.
I dont link to this guide anymore coz its not up to date anymore concerning some statements like 'if u upgrade unique armor items which are ethereal they will lose their eth. bonus' - coz I wrote it about a year ago ....

But the things that u should remember are :
1. Unique and Set class unid always has one point more base defense than the normal class of this item.
2. If u upgrade a unique armor item it might possibly have LESS Defense than it had before - although it needs way more streangh.
(if u have a herald with 200%ed - dont THINK that you can calculate with a 'max defense + 1 base def' zakarum shield after upgrading - the upgraded version may have the entire range from normal zakarum shield class because in the moment of upgrading it - the game doesent see it as HoZ anymore but as normal item for a short time (metaphorical spoken) this means : You got hoz 200% ed (always 169 base def coz a unique in its original form) 169*3 = 507 defense. Now u upgrade it : (NOW it gets the entire range of ZAKARUM shield normal item class defenses = from (169-193)*3 (*3 coz of 200% ed) - this means the game decides that ur upgraded perfect hoz might only have 169 base defense from zakarum shield and in this case IT has exactly the same defense like herald as gilded shield !!! and it might get very good, too ... but this is the thing why upgrading ur items is risky. many people dont know this... and they always think : if they upgrade a unique which had been perfect - it will remain perfect only coz it had perfect defense in its original form ...)

i couldnt find my 15% sacred but i found a 12%ed sacred





its 673 def.. if you do 600+12% its 672 when u do 601+12% its 673.12

Yes indeed . I see.

But :

I suppose one thing : if u got a superior armor - it gets automatically a base defense like for uniques - one point higher base defense than for normal item class.
Anyway you wont be able to find a sacred armor without the 'superior attribute' that has 601 base defense. only 600 possible in this case - and this was the case that was interesting for us because all of the topic was about the socketing via horadric cube bug of ethereal armors that doesent work with superior items

This post was edited by nbg on Oct 19 2005 04:37pm

i know it dont work on superiors..i only posted the picture b/c he said it wouldnt have the def i said. i also said the "old" post of this the guy had a 902def eth sacred..i pm'ed him to post a s/s

Thanks to the english-speaking people that cleared this up...haha

It didn't clarify exactly what it was for to begin with.