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Jun 4 2018 02:32pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 4 2018 11:29am)
Supreme court ruled that blizzard had to reset ladder


supreme court needs to ban bots next
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Jun 4 2018 02:34pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 4 2018 01:21pm)
It's too late to expect anything good from U.S. I think you are lacking a realistic view of the situation; theres no hope, only despair.


not that long ago my people were nearly murdered into extinction
not that long ago black people were in chains
not that long ago homosexuals had to hide from violence and emotional and mental torture

Now the bloodlines of those very victims fight for this county from the military to the streets of our communities to make it better

they make beautiful families with each other and try to move forward in a ever improving and more tolerant society

no hope?
only despair?
circus of bigots?

tell that to the people saving kids every day from the above on reservations
tell that to the people saving kids every day from the above in the inner cities and their communities

Real people, Americans

Social media and memes do not represent the unseen and unknown in this country that are the reason we can rise so quickly from such a dark and violent history

Trump doesn't take that from anyone and neither does his cult following portion of the party.
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Jun 4 2018 02:44pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 4 2018 03:58pm)
first america is not a country but a continent


Actually North America is a continent. America is a country.

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Jun 4 2018 02:52pm
Quote (Ghot @ 4 Jun 2018 21:44)
Actually North America is a continent. America is a country.


When i read this i would donate to provide Canada a nuclear arsenal.

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Information, and i was right about OP not giving any kind of explanation or link

It was not a question of selling a simple cake and a refusal to sell to homosexuals which would have been clearly discriminatory and illegal.
It was a particular order of a wedding cake that included a decoration mentioning the same-sex marriage, which is why the pastry chef invoked the first amendment to refuse to make a decoration contrary to his convictions. This is a special case.

Yeah so still bigolands but... Tempered.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 4 2018 03:01pm
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 4 2018 01:52pm)
When i read this i would donate to provide Canada a nuclear arsenal.

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Information, and i was right about OP not giving any kind of explanation or link

It was not a question of selling a simple cake and a refusal to sell to homosexuals which would have been clearly discriminatory and illegal.
It was a particular order of a wedding cake that included a decoration mentioning the same-sex marriage, which is why the pastry chef invoked the first amendment to refuse to make a decoration contrary to his convictions. This is a special case.

Yeah so still bigolands but... Tempered.


How about you foreigners research a bit before freaking out over American politics for a change
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Jun 4 2018 03:52pm
I think the Court got it right.

This was essentially a circumstantial ruling based on laws that existed in Colorado at the time of the case. The Court largely avoided the issue of religious freedom vs protection of same-sex couples. Kennedy's opinion seemed to leave that aspect open for a future case.
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Jun 4 2018 04:10pm
I believe you should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason, however you must have a public disclaimer showing who you refuse service to posted outside so i can decide if i want to buy fishing gear off the klan.
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Jun 4 2018 04:31pm
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Jun 4 2018 11:32am)
reparations....lol

All this drama just for a cake.



Yes reparations. They were forced out of business and then the state imposed 6 figure fines. They deserve reparations from the state of Colorado

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 4 2018 02:10pm)
I believe you should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason, however you must have a public disclaimer showing who you refuse service to posted outside so i can decide if i want to buy fishing gear off the klan.


social reputation is preferable to requiring a public disclaimer
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 4 Jun 2018 23:10)
I believe you should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason, however you must have a public disclaimer showing who you refuse service to posted outside so i can decide if i want to buy fishing gear off the klan.


When you have a business it's within the state, then you have to sell your shit to all the citizen of the state, without discrimination.
Usually few centuries of history / wars / minorities massacres can help in building this in the law. This is "maturity", but at country level.

It's always the same story, people think they can do whatever they want without realizing it's possible because of the state.

nb; your disclaimer works between re-sellers, and probably in a limited way to final customers. Here: "we do not make cakes for homosexual people because of our religion" well, they didnt implement it, sad.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 4 2018 06:07pm
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