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Bathrooms aren't a constitutional right

damn

so a tranny in one doesnt cost you anything?

im just confused what freedoms trans people are causing you to give up. other than the freedom to have an entirely cis porn tube search history.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 5 2018 11:12am

Its not a right.

Which means a public or private institution can disallow anyone they want from the bathrooms

And Obama has no business sticking his narcissistic control freak nose in it

I see no problem with allowing people to dress and call themselves whatever they like. They also don't deserve special treatment because they claim to be "different". They are still just like me and you.

Just because I accept them and don't want to change them, doesn't mean I think their behavior is normal for a species that relies on male and female to procreate.

Humans have gotten to a point where our species doesn't need to behave in specific ways to ensure our survival. We have complete dominance over our habitats.

I don't think it's normal behavior for a species that relies on a male and a female sperm / eggs to generate offspring. But we are well beyond that point in our evolutionary process.

you're presenting a more black-white case than is reality. In reality discrimination of people based on gender is against the law. Also in reality that legal distinction, and whether or not legal protection of transgender people is valid under gender protections, is up to the courts. I agree Obama overreached, i also agreed with his overreach due to pragmatism. The reality is we're going to spend billions fleshing this situation out and his move would have mitigated those costs.

we're going to first have a big scotus case, and one main point of contention will be selective enforcement of this law. You've likely walked past about 20 trannies this year you didn't know were not cis. If you owned a business you'd have the same issue, selective enforcement by the government based on profiling doesnt ever end well. So it would eventually come down that those who legally change their gender would be allowed to use the bathroom the assign with. then eventually that would cause stupid issues and the process to do so would need to be more stringent with potential medical backing. eventually agender people are going to get upset and we'll see unisex bathrooms be more common and slowly over time because fairly common in public places.

its all a waste of our money litigating this on the state and federal level all so that people can feel safe from a hypothetical situation (fake tranny pervs) that hasnt been documented to happen and would still be largely illegal. all so that armchair lawyer biologist hybrids can have a good red faced rant on what gender is and is not, from both sides. you're all pathetic idiots who are all costing us money based on irrational fear, or intersectional politics vote buying, take your pick.

Mental illness isnt a gender

Some facts:

• Gender is socialization, not biology (1)
  
• Biological science does not support the idea of a sexual binary (2)
  
• In fact, 1 in 70 humans are intersex in some way. That's hundreds of millions of us. (3) Science has also proven that sexual traits themselves are actually on a sliding scale. (4)
  
• Gender socialization based on the false premise of a mythological biological sexual binary has been scientifically shown to have negative consequences for mental health, and is a leading cause of gender dysphoria. This means any mental health association with gender dysphoria is socially manufactured by the ignorant and anti-science, rather than inherent in the trans person (5)

1. https://blogs.unicef.org/evidence-for-action/what-is-gender-socialization-and-why-does-it-matter/
2. https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Population_figures
4. http://www.bbc.com/news/health-14459843
5. http://www.jahonline.org/action/consumeSharedSessionAction?JSESSIONID=aaaU1btKjejS6_V-tVjkw&MAID=4SGTOobd9ZAiUwV3sTsB0w==&SERVER=WZ6myaEXBLGvmNGtLlDx7g==&ORIGIN=336451482&RD=RD)


So, OP, just admit it, you're anti science! It's OK! You can go hang out with the flat earthers or something... You're almost as hopeless as they are!

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Apr 5 2018 11:34am

not an argument