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Oct 10 2017 01:59pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 10 2017 03:43pm)
Dumbest thing i've heard maybe ever
that comment would not fit on the card sultan scale of stupid.


Insightful as always.
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Oct 10 2017 02:18pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 10 Oct 2017 19:43)
Dumbest thing i've heard maybe ever
that comment would not fit on the card sultan scale of stupid.


Why?

Breaking ranks with Israel would likely reduce Islamic animosity to the US for starters. It's also a sensible humanitarian move and shows the US gives a shit about human rights abuses instead of just using them as propaganda.

I can't see why it wouldn't help stabilise the middle east and reduce terrorism in the west.
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Oct 10 2017 03:00pm
betraying the jewish people and breaking the alliance with our best ally in favor of allying with a backwards ass muslim dictator..
yeah brilliant idea. some even say it would be the best thing to ever happen.

im sure all muslims will just forget all of our conflicts, that we've been blowing shit up over there for decades, that we overthrew Iran's leader in 53, all of the other conflicts with iran, etc etc
we should totally sell our more liberal and westernized allies down the river in order to try to persuade terrorists to like us more. im sure that will work out well.

Aside from the complete moral bankruptcy, practical impossibility, and complete betrayal of liberal values, theres another big hitch in the plan.

ISIS and Iran hate each other.
cozying up to Iran would not persuade radical Islamic terrorists.

Iran right now is literally threatening to treat the US like ISIS and threatening our military bases.

Its one thing to think we are too close with israel or that we should be involved less in the middle east.
its another entirely to say we should actively break our alliance with Israel to ally with freaking Iran of all countries and that this would be the best thing to ever happen to us.
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Oct 10 2017 03:01pm
Cam is becoming more of a Republican every day.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 10 2017 05:01pm)
Cam is becoming more of a Republican every day.


only republicans realize allying with Iran is a shit tier idea?
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 10 2017 05:00pm)
betraying the jewish people and breaking the alliance with our best ally in favor of allying with a backwards ass muslim dictator..
yeah brilliant idea. some even say it would be the best thing to ever happen.

im sure all muslims will just forget all of our conflicts, that we've been blowing shit up over there for decades, that we overthrew Iran's leader in 53, all of the other conflicts with iran, etc etc
we should totally sell our more liberal and westernized allies down the river in order to try to persuade terrorists to like us more. im sure that will work out well.

Aside from the complete moral bankruptcy, practical impossibility, and complete betrayal of liberal values, theres another big hitch in the plan.

ISIS and Iran hate each other.
cozying up to Iran would not persuade radical Islamic terrorists.

Iran right now is literally threatening to treat the US like ISIS and threatening our military bases.

Its one thing to think we are too close with israel or that we should be involved less in the middle east.
its another entirely to say we should actively break our alliance with Israel to ally with freaking Iran of all countries and that this would be the best thing to ever happen to us.


I don't even know where to start with this post.

I enlarged the most huh? points.

You're worried about moral bankruptcy and betrayal of liberal values, yet prefer Israel over Iran as an ally despite Iran being overwhelmingly more in line with liberal, western values than the terrorist juggernaut Israel.
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Oct 10 2017 03:19pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Oct 10 2017 05:18pm)
I don't even know where to start with this post.

I enlarged the most huh? points.

You're worried about moral bankruptcy and betrayal of liberal values, yet prefer Israel over Iran as an ally despite Iran being overwhelmingly more in line with liberal, western values than the terrorist juggernaut Israel.


you've lost the plot.
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Oct 10 2017 03:23pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran


give it a read. right now you have that complete detachment from reality thing going on. its not a good look.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Oct 10 2017 03:23pm
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Oct 10 2017 03:26pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 11 2017 08:19am)
you've lost the plot.


The israeli ambassador in australia was kicked out, because he stole multiple australian passports and gave them to mossad, mossad used them to assassinate a PLO officer, 7 australians were implicated because of this and we had to clear their names.
The zionists are dangerous and can not be trusted.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Oct 10 2017 03:31pm
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Oct 10 2017 07:14pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 10 2017 05:23pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran


give it a read. right now you have that complete detachment from reality thing going on. its not a good look.


Hey I can post a Wikipedia article too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Israel

bretty gud argument men

and while we're at it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

This post was edited by Voyaging on Oct 10 2017 07:19pm
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