at this point, they are just desperate to pass ANYthing, no matter what a mess or abomination it is.

Is that post or pre subsidy ppl tell me these giant nimbers and then unless they smoke its a much smaller %

We got more issues than just the corn subsidies. We would also need to completely re haul the food recommendations that schools follow to lower the amount of sugar/refined carbs that they base everything off on which the sugar/grain industry has lobbied hard for to push that grains be the majority of intake for people to have so it results in them having the majority of business in the food industry.

And then somehow get it through people's heads that the less you eat , the more active you are, the more easier it is to sustain a weight or to lose weight. There's variance to this but the reality is to a certain degree it's how your body works.

The corn subsidies going away just means the sugar industry makes more money cause people aren't going to stop drinking pop/soda anytime soon. Almost every single store you ever go into, there's pop guaranteed. Although high fructose corn syrup might be more nutritionally worse than sugar, it's not like sugar in any large or considerable daily use is good for you either and you'll still have a problem.

The Obesity epidemic is mostly an issue that stems entirely from the fact people's intake of food has increased notably combined with a higher rate of sedentary lifestyle. And it also doesn't help that people have grown up being obese which has severe effects on psychologically and in reality obese people might as well be addicts since their body has completely adapted and is used to the rate of food they have eaten over years and if they attempt to switch from this , it's pretty hard to expect people to make the changes.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Sep 22 2017 07:47am

Lol what? I mean I'm a big Obamacare fan, I understand why single payer is good too. If you think Doctors are pro-Obamacare you've lost your mind. CNN has to interview like 500 doctors before finding 1 bleeding heart to support the cause.

If you're a doctor, you should hate Obamacare. What a lot of people don't get about patient billing is that with Medicare the doctor typically only sees 60-70% of what they bill. With Medicaid it can be as low as 20%. With subsidized Obamacare it's like 70%. With just typical private insurance it's over 85%. So yeah, I can't imagine why a doctor would be opposed to expanded Medicaid and subsidized lower rate private insurance forced through Obamacare LOL.

did you read the links? that comment was about the american medical association's opposition to the bill being proposed, not about whether or not they support obama care

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 22 2017 07:55am

Well I'd say on a moral level , healthcare professionals might want to support an option that has more people covered ultimately.

Perfect response to this Jimmy Kimmel bullshit. He is not an expert because his son has surgery.

I don't follow what news stations say but in large the physician viewpoint is pretty split and dependent on the field. Primary care physicians are getting less reimbursement, and having to spend considerable more time jumping through insurance loops. The upside is that they can see more patients whom they may previously would not have been able to see. Specialists on the other hand largely benefit, this is especially the case for inpatient encounters.