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Sep 21 2017 04:08pm
So they're trying to bribe alaska for their vote by saying they can keep the aca, while also removing the cap on medicaid for alaska and montana. While another gop senator is trying to block single payer for the states. Smh.

Obamacare is bad so we're going to replace it with something that is much worse, but we'll let you keep the bad obamacare. Uhuh. Oh and we're going to block everyone else from coming up with their own plan. Go team.

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Sep 21 2017 04:15pm
they should just not give healthcare to noone.....if you get sick and you cant pay.. and than you die...

well than.. you die
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Sep 21 2017 04:27pm
garbage bill that doesnt do nearly enough to repeal the aca and lower the cost of healthcare, but would shift blame of obamacare failures onto republicans in the court of public opinion.

'~24 million thrown off health insurance' is just democrat fearmongering based on the notion that some people who are no longer forced to buy astronomically expensive health insurance(which is not the same as health care) from certain corporations will choose not to do so.
Forcing people to buy health insurance etc is not a solution that fixes rising healthcare costs.. it further obfuscates prices and forces (young) people to give up a lot of money.

also kimmel is wildly ignorant and using his kid to pretend hes some sort of moral authority. he shows no notion that he understands the first thing about why people might not like certain policies other than being evil and hating kids.
This is the worst kind of take that encompasses many elements of the modern left. ignorant celebrity comedian used as an authority figure and source of news. appealing to emotion while not seriously discussing drawbacks and costs.

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Sep 21 2017 04:29pm
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garbage bill that doesnt do nearly enough to repeal the aca and lower the cost of healthcare, but would shift blame of obamacare failures onto republicans in the court of public opinion.

'~24 million thrown off healthcare' is just democrat fearmongering based on the notion that some people who are no longer forced to buy astronomically expensive health insurance(which is not the same as health care) from certain corporations will choose not to do so.


What percentage of the 24 million do you think that is?

I'd wager it's way less than even one million, but if you have numbers do post them.
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Sep 21 2017 04:45pm
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What percentage of the 24 million do you think that is?

I'd wager it's way less than even one million, but if you have numbers do post them.


Heres one take that examines some of the poor aspects of the projections and looks at the repeal figures
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/07/24/revealed-vast-majority-of-cbos-lost-coverage-projections-come-from-repeal-of-individual-mandate-n2358719
e/ this one too
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/05/25/no-the-republican-healthcare-bill-would-not-cause-23-million-people-to-lose-insurance-n2331434

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Sep 21 2017 04:46pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 21 2017 06:29pm)
What percentage of the 24 million do you think that is?

I'd wager it's way less than even one million, but if you have numbers do post them.


It doesn't matter how many. More people die under Obama than the alternative because Obamacare's quality is lower and the costs are higher..
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Sep 21 2017 07:09pm
Clowns in congress

This bill takes away Medicare coverage for patients chronic kidney disease stage3A and above, however maintains Medicare coverage for hemodialysis patients. There is so much wrong with this bill it's hilarious. You don't wanna pay $100 a month for insulin and BP meds but you would pay tens of thousands monthly for dialysis. Preventative care really needs to be addressed better as that's the primary (heh) way to cut down medical costs. This is just one example. This bill will not only take away healthcare for millions but will increase the total money spent as well. Hard to believe morons of this magnitude really are running the show.

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Clowns in congress

This bill takes away Medicare coverage for patients chronic kidney disease stage3A and above, however maintains Medicare coverage for hemodialysis patients. There is so much wrong with this bill it's hilarious. You don't wanna pay $100 a month for insulin and BP meds but you would pay tens of thousands monthly for dialysis. Preventative care really needs to be addressed better as that's the primary (heh) way to cut down medical costs. This is just one example. This bill will not only take away healthcare for millions but will increase the total money spent as well. Hard to believe morons of this magnitude really are running the show.


It's Lindsay Graham...

He's well known for being a moron.
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Sep 21 2017 07:43pm
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It's Lindsay Graham...

He's well known for being a moron.



Finally something I can agree with.
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