So you might've heard by now about the lawsuit against google over the gender pay gap. Wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the key complaints below - particularly if you work in tech or at google in particular.

Women are paid less than men for the same for the same roles/duties
This sounds like is the old retardation of ignoring how performance (on call, hours worked, overtime, multitasking etc.) ties into pay in addition to location based discrepancies in pay which google claims in it's defense. Of all the articles I've read through I've yet to encounter comparisons in job performance (not performance reviews) which is probably not a coincidence as that wouldn't help the narrative being put forth here. That aside it does look like women get a rough start at google though the gap becomes negligible as they progress in their career.




Women are segregated into non technical lesser paying roles
The stories of the women in these articles are reflective of male management that cannot get over their prejudice against women in tech and is quite believable if you've worked with people in tech who can have very strong views on various subjects ranging from technology to economics to race and gender. Hell, I have my own set of biases everytime I read a resume prior to an interview but I make an effort to give people a fair evaluation asking them the same set of questions I ask others applying for the same roles. The bolded below is a red flag.


Sexual harassment is overlooked by hr
Homophobic and sexist comments are common in tech and people get more bold with their comments as they acquire more power thinking they can get away with it - which they actually can as HR is typically unlikely to punish someone higher up so this is not at all surprising and I do believe the women here so long as google remains silent unwilling to provide a rebuttal.


Articles below
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/09/09/google-employee-spreadsheet-alleges-pay-gap-women/649969001/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/14/google-women-promotions-lower-paying-jobs-lawsuit
http://www.businessinsider.com/kelly-ellis-claims-she-was-sexually-harassed-at-google-2015-3
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/technology/google-salaries-gender-disparity.html?mcubz=1&_r=0

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 15 2017 08:55am

But women get pregnant once in twice in their careers!

Other than level one that pay gap is pretty small compared to what people seem to think it is

How many factors is it considering?

This post was edited by FroggyG on Sep 15 2017 09:19am

women favor front-end development which is by all accounts easier
it also suits them more biologically, it's more about creativity and shit.

maybe we shouldn't say it's 'segregated'

This post was edited by DCSS on Sep 15 2017 09:21am

That wat I was thinking

No. Men try to put all women into front end development, including those who are much better suited to backend development. My girlfriend has had to have massive executive interventions over this bullshit.

Honestly, most of these techies live in a delusional bubble and think they are God's gift to the world.

They are all 'super progressive' until it turns out that they are actually country club misogynists like many of those who came before them.


I say punish them more severely just because of their cavalier attitudes. SV hypocrites.

they're being denied entry to back end stuff as per the lawsuit

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 15 2017 09:57am

you're right. they do actually think that, as if the world was made for them and the rest of us just happen to exist in it.

exactly my thoughts as well, and the disparity at level one can probably be explained by a lot of good reasons.