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#151
Nov 17 2017 01:46pm
Quote (Pollster @ Nov 17 2017 09:37am)
You didn't list off scandals, let alone crimes -- your list of grievances is a mish-mash of policy you don't like and criticisms on the implementation of policy you don't like. I don't like the Mexico City Policy but that doesn't make it a damn scandal. "Scandal" does not mean "shit I don't like."

You don't need to explicitly state "Trump hasn't committed a crime" to demonstrate your value judgment. You outed yourself immediately and just kept doing it using your standard trademarks.


"like violating the War Powers Resolution, prosecuting whistleblowers and journalists, upending standing bankruptcy law and using the IRS as a political weapon"

Until it's rescinded, the WPR is standing federal law. Obama didn't have a disagreement on policy over it, he broke the law. He waged war, and didn't even pretend like he had an obligation to get the permission of Congress. Your apologism knows no bounds.

The Whistleblower Protection Act is standing federal law. Prosecuting someone for whistleblowing is a crime. Not a difference in opinion over policy. A crime.

You obviously know shit about the Chrysler bankruptcy and laws protecting secured creditors over unsecured creditors, and how Obama basically stole a corporation from its secured creditors via its obscene bankruptcy proceedings and gave it to his union backers, but hey, I know I can't expect you to not talk out your ass when you know fuck-all about something.



No, you don't get to pretend to know what I think.
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#152
Nov 17 2017 04:30pm
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"like violating the War Powers Resolution, prosecuting whistleblowers and journalists, upending standing bankruptcy law and using the IRS as a political weapon"

Until it's rescinded, the WPR is standing federal law. Obama didn't have a disagreement on policy over it, he broke the law. He waged war, and didn't even pretend like he had an obligation to get the permission of Congress. Your apologism knows no bounds.

The Whistleblower Protection Act is standing federal law. Prosecuting someone for whistleblowing is a crime. Not a difference in opinion over policy. A crime.

You obviously know shit about the Chrysler bankruptcy and laws protecting secured creditors over unsecured creditors, and how Obama basically stole a corporation from its secured creditors via its obscene bankruptcy proceedings and gave it to his union backers, but hey, I know I can't expect you to not talk out your ass when you know fuck-all about something.



No, you don't get to pretend to know what I think.


No wars were started under Obama. Two were continued and resolved. Iraq and Afghanistan are the only wars the US was involved in under Obama.
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#153
Nov 17 2017 05:15pm
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 17 2017 04:30pm)
No wars were started under Obama. Two were continued and resolved. Iraq and Afghanistan are the only wars the US was involved in under Obama.


Libya in 2011 was a very illegal war.
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#154
Nov 17 2017 05:18pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Aug 23 2017 09:54am)
Because my Russiagate thread wasn't doing just that.

Oh, wait.....

TBH though, I've gotten so sick of the toxicity surrounding the whole thing, that I basically said "fuck it", and stopped updating that thread.


Trump supporters are no different from Nixon supporters. They'll say they're right until their guy is totally fucked and then they'll claim they never supported Trump to begin with.
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#155
Nov 17 2017 05:19pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 17 2017 12:46pm)
"like violating the War Powers Resolution, prosecuting whistleblowers and journalists, upending standing bankruptcy law and using the IRS as a political weapon"

Until it's rescinded, the WPR is standing federal law. Obama didn't have a disagreement on policy over it, he broke the law. He waged war, and didn't even pretend like he had an obligation to get the permission of Congress. Your apologism knows no bounds.

The Whistleblower Protection Act is standing federal law. Prosecuting someone for whistleblowing is a crime. Not a difference in opinion over policy. A crime.

You obviously know shit about the Chrysler bankruptcy and laws protecting secured creditors over unsecured creditors, and how Obama basically stole a corporation from its secured creditors via its obscene bankruptcy proceedings and gave it to his union backers, but hey, I know I can't expect you to not talk out your ass when you know fuck-all about something.



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Yep, and now Trump is doing it in Africa, too. Our last several presidents are all war criminals.
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#156
Nov 17 2017 05:24pm


Well, if you look at it like that, then the US has been run by war criminals since 1776.
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Nov 17 2017 05:29pm
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Yep, and now Trump is doing it in Africa, too. Our last several presidents are all war criminals.


They pretty much are, yes.

Quote (Ghot @ Nov 17 2017 05:24pm)
Well, if you look at it like that, then the US has been run by war criminals since 1776.


No, we've had Congressionally declared wars up through WWII.

This post was edited by Santara on Nov 17 2017 05:30pm
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#158
Nov 19 2017 04:31pm
Quote (Santara @ Nov 17 2017 07:29pm)
No, we've had Congressionally declared wars up through WWII.


I was including Congress, when I said the US had been run by war criminals since 1776. :)

I mean I don't think of it this way, I was simply responding to another viewpoint.

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#159
Nov 19 2017 04:43pm
When will we impeach for having a sip of water? Based on all your other claims I can only see this one being just as valid as the other dribble being shit posted.
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Nov 19 2017 04:46pm
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When will we impeach for having a sip of water? Based on all your other claims I can only see this one being just as valid as the other dribble being shit posted.




You DO know that Trump does not post here....right?


/e I guess you also realize that I've never posted or even commented, on the sipping water thing...right?

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 19 2017 04:49pm
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