it's actually easier if they have exhausted all their energy, our bodies float just fine. although i never had to do it outside a training scenario, it's much more difficult to rescue someone who's still struggling and has energy left to "fight" you...

I'm sure most of Beijing is used to that, but I'm glad you've found some actual local food

i don't think anyone here is saying that though if they are i'd be glad to add them to my list of people who need to die immediately https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75601100&f=276

This post was edited by duffman316 on Jul 24 2017 08:38pm

LOL

No only the top sentence in agreement with your post. The rest was more rhetorical not aimed at you.




Idk about this. A person that can even partially assist, lets say just by using their legs to swim is still more useful than dead weight.

A body almost floats, dead weight is not really a problem, with the right technique I could swim around the pond a couple of circles at least. then again, I'm Uber Dutch race.

/e Swimming programs are in our school programs to prevent ppl from drowning. Water country ^

This post was edited by Knaapie on Jul 24 2017 09:19pm

here too

http://www.education.gouv.fr/cid56824/natation.html

it's a "national priority" to know how to swim.

A legal duty to contact aid. I don't think there's any reason to be outraged because those kids are so depraved that they won't make it past their 20s. Karma is a bitch.

yes, but we went through different scenarios (person to be rescued stays calm / is combative / wears clothes...) and in a real world scenario i'd pick the calm / exhausted person in an instant because drowning ppl are usually not reasonable and easily convinced to assist with helpful leg movement (that's why i stated earlier that verbal advice is only a longshot), we also learned how to subdue and control a panicking person (hand manipulation and controlled "drowning") and as you can imagine that can be exhausting as hell, even for a strong swimmer...

again, i fortunately don't have any real life experience with it and don't know the exact statistics, but we were told by our instructors (DLRG, a german lifesaving organisation) NOT to support our training partners with leg movement because that would be highly unrealistic in a rescue scenario.

It's a pretty big deal here in Spain and you're most likely going to get a jail sentence if you don't rescue someone who is in life threatening danger (as long as rescuing him doesn't put you in danger ofc). Bonus points if you have caused the situation by accident, or even worse, by being irresponsible.

I thought such a law existed everywhere in the western world, and I'm surprised the US doesn't have one. That being said, even if it's morally disgusting to not save a human life when you have the chance, I don't think you should be jailed for it. Community service would be more appropriate for these cases if anything imo. In any case, calling for help should be mandatory if you chose to not try to rescue the person yourself, as should be notifying the authorities if the victim dies or is in need of further assistance.