Quote (ampoo @ 21 Jun 2017 19:25)

nice idea, but most muslim migrants come here to live among "their own" and do not plan to have native neighbours
if you try to force them they will go somewhere else

Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 21 2017 09:41pm)

"SO MANY"

Quote (pickle00 @ Jun 21 2017 02:00pm)

Why would you want to assimilate them? Deportation and closed borders is much better

Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 21 2017 03:41pm)

"SO MANY"

Quote (Leevee @ 21 Jun 2017 19:16)

PaRD's local Belgian, reporting in!

In Belgium we have a huge problem with Imams who don't speak any of the local languages. That means no Dutch, nor French, nor German, and no English either.
These are the Imams that are estranged from society (for logical reasons), and who can offer zero guidance to young Muslims who are actually trying to be proper followers of their faith. The one authority these kids should have (i.e. the Imam) is somebody they cannot communicate with.
This leaves those kids weak to being manipulated/influenced by outside sources. These kids, with way too little knowledge about Islam, are easy subjects to people who preach ISIS' caliphate, who say that Jihad justifies killing infidels, stuff like that. Many of the Muslims who have radicalized in Belgium were people who had way too little interaction with their Imams. This goes for local terrorists as well as people who traveled to Syria to join the ISIS forces there.

That is the first and foremost work item we have here. Islam needs to grow out of obscurity, Imams need to be qualified to teach, and Muslims need to start taking responsibility over what their kids are learning instead of turning a blind eye.

Quote (Knaapie @ 21 Jun 2017 23:23)

You be correct as well if you were to remove the word "Muslim". Dutch migrants in Spain/Canada/Australia. Tend to not mingle easily as well. Ppl tend to want to live with ppl that seem similar to them. China towns !
Dutch ppl tend to want to have Dutch neighbors (seems similar to immigrants)

That actually makes me wonder if Duffman is properly assimilated. Do you live among your own culture ? and do you hold on to your cultural believes Duff ? ^^

Integration requires mutual acceptance (coming from both sides), in order to create an open debate and to start understanding each other. We and they are massively lacking that at this time in history.

Quote (Leevee @ Jun 21 2017 04:02pm)

Making Imams have certain qualifications (such as language skills) is definitely actionable.

Quote (ampoo @ 22 Jun 2017 00:02)

with the slight difference these do not cause any kind of trouble
i grew up and went to school in a town that has a pretty big japanese community
not a single one was not integrated, everyone spoke perfect german, all adults have a job, education is very important for them and their kids mingle with everyone else in kindergarten etc
they do have their own japanese school, that children attend after regular german school

by no means have they ever interfered with german way of life or made any demands to adapt to their culture, in fact they fit in naturally and even in neighbourhoods with many of their families you never get the impression of a parallel society

that brings me to the point of "mutual acceptance"
integration/assimilation is something that a migrant has to do himself and its his responsibility that requires his will to do it
and the term acceptance has its boundaries, many traditions and customs of muslim migrants have no place here
i will not negotiate arranged child marriages or equal rights of men and women to name two issues of that rancid belief system

countries like germany have opened themselves completely, we are bankrupting ourselves financially and culturally to accommodate muslim migrants and its still not working
they are the only group that causes trouble and no matter how tolerant we are they dont fit in, what else should we do?
they are the only group to even cause such a debate :lol:
do as we do or leave, its that simple really

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 22 2017 05:33am)

No matter how much you want to paint this false comparison it doesn't hold true simply because Christian & Hebrew terrorism is nearly non existent meanwhile Islamic terrorism is widespread, even in places where they are minuscule minority.

Let's talk about other reasons since you're so keen on them. Please share what you think are other reasons causing Muslims to commit acts of terror at behemoth rates compared to other religions.