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I've been there too last summer. What'd ya think of the tour?

Personally I thought it was rather commercial and touristy for such a contested area.


Yeah it was but I still enjoyed it, did you go on the premium tour where you see them meeting with North Korean soldiers? We booked it too late so had to go on the standard tour, going into the tunnels, watching a historical vid and then seeing the views.

Where else did you go in Korea/asia in general on your trip?
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This is a photo I took of the DMZ where you can see the North and South korean flags on poles. The guide told us that they are the joint highest flags in the world. First, the North Koreans put up their flag 10ft, South Korea put theirs to 20, then NK raised theirs, and so on...both flags now stand at over 80ft high

https://imgur.com/HVyQFwe.png


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Most nuclear weapon launch systems are currently using very simple and older technology as updating them would be both expensive and could potentially increase the security risk, I think most nuclear warheads in the world (USA too) are using launch systems from the 70's and 80's with as little reliance on computers as possible.

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Most nuclear weapon launch systems are currently using very simple and older technology as updating them would be both expensive and could potentially increase the security risk, I think most nuclear warheads in the world (USA too) are using launch systems from the 70's and 80's with as little reliance on computers as possible.




Well maybe in Canada. :)
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Well maybe in Canada. :)


nope, what he says is true. afaik, the US launch system is also using floppy disks, at least in part.
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Jan 7 2018 07:49am
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Yeah it was but I still enjoyed it, did you go on the premium tour where you see them meeting with North Korean soldiers? We booked it too late so had to go on the standard tour, going into the tunnels, watching a historical vid and then seeing the views.

Where else did you go in Korea/asia in general on your trip?


We didn't have the premium tour. As part of a Study Tour I went to Russia and South Korea last summer. Moscow, St. Petersburg, Seoul, Busan, Daejeon and a few days to relax on Jeju. Preferred Russia over South Korea, the people were way chiller there. South Korean food was better though, even though their breakfast options really suck ass.

The DMZ tour was interesting, but it kind of grated on me a bit when the lady in the bus just rattles on and on and on about the border. Had more fun interacting with the soldier who was escorting us to the blue UN buildings. And I almost laughed out loud at one of the cinematics shown during the tour, it was just so damn American.
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We didn't have the premium tour. As part of a Study Tour I went to Russia and South Korea last summer. Moscow, St. Petersburg, Seoul, Busan, Daejeon and a few days to relax on Jeju. Preferred Russia over South Korea, the people were way chiller there. South Korean food was better though, even though their breakfast options really suck ass.

The DMZ tour was interesting, but it kind of grated on me a bit when the lady in the bus just rattles on and on and on about the border. Had more fun interacting with the soldier who was escorting us to the blue UN buildings. And I almost laughed out loud at one of the cinematics shown during the tour, it was just so damn American.


I was only in Korea for 5 nights so stayed in Seoul and went on day trips to nearby cities like Incheon. My mate over there has now moved to Busan on a different teaching contract so when I go next (later this year probably), it'll be to there. Instead of going to Japan like last year we'll go to Taiwan, Vietnam, maybe Hong Kong or China too.

Never been to Russia but a few friends that went said it wasn't great and the people weren't very friendly. You also need a visa to go which is a pain in the arse.
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I was only in Korea for 5 nights so stayed in Seoul and went on day trips to nearby cities like Incheon. My mate over there has now moved to Busan on a different teaching contract so when I go next (later this year probably), it'll be to there. Instead of going to Japan like last year we'll go to Taiwan, Vietnam, maybe Hong Kong or China too.

Never been to Russia but a few friends that went said it wasn't great and the people weren't very friendly. You also need a visa to go which is a pain in the arse.


The visa wasn't that bad. It's not cheap, but it's not that hard to get. Takes like ~1-2 weeks at the embassy/visa center.

Russia was to me very warm and welcoming. It might have to do with the fact that we mostly interacted with students/professors and other young people, but in general we had a pretty good time there. Also St. Petersburg legitimately is one of the prettiest cities in Europe. Being shown around by a local helps, they help you avoid the tourist traps that you won't want to go to.

I don't really feel the need to go back to South Korea, I think I've seen most of the things a tourist would see. Did a Buddhist temple stay (which wasn't great), ate Korean BBQ, went to a seedy karaoke basement in Seoul, partied with locals, all good fun.
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Most nuclear weapon launch systems are currently using very simple and older technology as updating them would be both expensive and could potentially increase the security risk, I think most nuclear warheads in the world (USA too) are using launch systems from the 70's and 80's with as little reliance on computers as possible.


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