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Apr 6 2017 06:34pm
Quote (Golden_Order @ Apr 7 2017 01:20am)
This chemical attack looks like a false flag attack similar to the one in 2013. Why would Bashar Al Assad launch a chemical attack when he is winning the civil war easily now?. Doesnt make any sense. An attack like this would only benefit the rebels to push the USA into the war in Siria.

Stefan Molyneux explains it better in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQcPZrBbb2Q


I will be really dissapointed on Trump if he allows himself to be dragged into that war. This chemical attack has a big FALSE FLAG ATTACK all over it.


The amount of ignorant people who think ISIS is Assad's only opponent of note is astounding.

Quote (Skinned @ Apr 7 2017 01:33am)
Why does your type always fall back on conspiracy theories?


I mean, it's fair enough to question who was behind the chemical attack given how many different parties are involved in the war. But a lot of people seem to genuinely think ISIS losing = Assad winning which couldn't be further from the truth.

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Apr 6 2017 06:36pm
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The amount of ignorant people who think ISIS is Assad's only opponent of note is astounding.


They also act as if he isn't a war criminal at large.
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Lol weaker on foreign policy than Obama...? Seriously over the last few months you've gone full shill mode.

As far as Assad, lets think for a second what would of happened to him if he would of just gave in. We don't have to look too far for a historical reference, that was in a similar predicament. He would of met the same faith as Gaddafi. He probably would of got fucked with a broom, his wife would of been fucked to death, his kids decapitated and every one he knew/was related to would of had a similar fate. The Alawite, Christians, Yazidis would of been enslaved or running for the hills. What would you do in his shoes?

Assad was a secular dictator in a fairly moderate Islamic country, he still stands for secularism. I would take him over what ever else you think is a better option that's there now. You continue to ignore the millions of Syrians that directly rely on safety from Assad. It's funny how when all the shit hit the fan most Syrians that didn't flea the country ran to government held areas. Even if we take Aleppo for example, the government controlled part had 1.2 million people(many fleeing from rebel held parts) compared to 300,000 (of which we know many were prevented from leaving by force, to be used as human shields) in rebel held Aleppo.

You continue to argue for a position blatantly disregarding the catastrophous outcome it will bring. Seriously i want to hear what do you think happens after he is deposed? What will happen to all the civilians that supported him? What will happen to the minorities (Shiite, Christian, Yazidis & others) that relied on his protection? Any answers? You want to drag the US in another Afghanistan or Iraq, where we need boots on the ground and trillions?


I wholeheartedly agree. Among a plethora of extremely shitty options, Assad is still one of the least shitty ones.

But that still doesnt mean that we should let him get away with the use of chemical wmds, in case the allegations prove true.
There must be some sort of reaction, but definitely not an american/nato invasion with massive boots on the ground. And whatever we push for on syria, a valid solution for the time after assad must be found before assad is sent into exile. Lets not repeat the errors of bush in iraq, where everything was focused on overthrowing saddam, but they had no plan for the time after.

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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 6 2017 08:03pm)
Why does your type always fall back on conspiracy theories?


It just doesnt make sense that Assad would shot himself on the foot and launch a chemical attack that could turn the world against him and risk the USA enter directly in the war against him. He didnt have the need to use chemical weapons if hes about to finish the civil war in his favor. Doesnt make sense man.

This attack only benefits the rebels, who btw have used chemical weapons before plenty of times during this civil war.


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The amount of ignorant people who think ISIS is Assad's only opponent of note is astounding.

I mean, it's fair enough to question who was behind the chemical attack given how many different parties are involved in the war. But a lot of people seem to genuinely think ISIS losing = Assad winning which couldn't be further from the truth.


Who said ISIS was Assad's only opponent?. You forgot to add Al nusra, the FSA all backed up by the sunni muslim world (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UEA, etc, plus the USA too). Happy now?.

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US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/us-military-has-launched-more-50-than-missiles-aimed-at-syria-nbc-news.html


What a dissapointed Mr Trump. You have just allowed yourself to be swallowed by the warmongers. Bah.

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Who said ISIS was Assad's only opponent?. You forgot to add Al nusra, the FSA all backed up by the sunni muslim world (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UEA, etc, plus the USA too). Happy now?.


The point is that people are acting as if it were just a matter of time until all of Assad's opponents are crushed.

Specially not when that one enemy could steamroll Syria within a few days...
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US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/us-military-has-launched-more-50-than-missiles-aimed-at-syria-nbc-news.html


What a dissapointed Mr Trump. You have just allowed yourself to be swallowed by the warmongers. Bah.


launching missiles doesnt necessarily lead to more military engagement. we dont know how the pentagon/trump will proceed from here, but for now I think this was meant as a last warning towards assad, not as the beginning of a bigger campaign.

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Apr 6 2017 07:39pm
Quote (Golden_Order @ Apr 6 2017 07:55pm)
US military has launched more than 50 missiles aimed at Syria:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/us-military-has-launched-more-50-than-missiles-aimed-at-syria-nbc-news.html


What a dissapointed Mr Trump. You have just allowed yourself to be swallowed by the warmongers. Bah.


He is an authoritarian Republican. What makes you think it would be different?

Remember, the only Republican who wouldn't be doing this is Rand Paul and none of you guys voted for him.
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From what i gather the Russians were warned ahead of time which means Assad was probably warned by the Russians. Not expecting very high casualty numbers unless Assad wants to play the "look America just killed a bunch of civilians" angle. To me this feels like a signal to Assad but more importantly the international community. Trump being the new kid on the block wants to portray a certain image to the world and to our enemies.
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Quote (Skinned @ 6 Apr 2017 20:33)
Why does your type always fall back on conspiracy theories?

what do you mean "your type"???? his type being hispanics? cut out the bigotry

reported, btw
Quote (ofthevoid @ 6 Apr 2017 19:49)
Lol weaker on foreign policy than Obama...? Seriously over the last few months you've gone full shill mode.

As far as Assad, lets think for a second what would of happened to him if he would of just gave in. We don't have to look too far for a historical reference, that was in a similar predicament. He would of met the same faith as Gaddafi. He probably would of got fucked with a broom, his wife would of been fucked to death, his kids decapitated and every one he knew/was related to would of had a similar fate. The Alawite, Christians, Yazidis would of been enslaved or running for the hills. What would you do in his shoes?

Assad was a secular dictator in a fairly moderate Islamic country, he still stands for secularism. I would take him over what ever else you think is a better option that's there now. You continue to ignore the millions of Syrians that directly rely on safety from Assad. It's funny how when all the shit hit the fan most Syrians that didn't flea the country ran to government held areas. Even if we take Aleppo for example, the government controlled part had 1.2 million people(many fleeing from rebel held parts) compared to 300,000 (of which we know many were prevented from leaving by force, to be used as human shields) in rebel held Aleppo.

You continue to argue for a position blatantly disregarding the catastrophous outcome it will bring. Seriously i want to hear what do you think happens after he is deposed? What will happen to all the civilians that supported him? What will happen to the minorities (Shiite, Christian, Yazidis & others) that relied on his protection? Any answers? You want to drag the US in another Afghanistan or Iraq, where we need boots on the ground and trillions?

last few months lol thats an understatement

The gope/many democrats loveeee to profit off war and regime toppling. to hell with those that will suffer as a result
no morals other than what moloch tells them to value.
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