Agreed. Perhaps a better word than glorify would be "vindication". The fact that her parents were offered $200k in a settlement brings tangible validation to the idea that suicide is an action that can "get people's attention". Kids crave to be understood and the show depicts Hannah's suicide as a way for her to put herself in a position of power.

Though I want to reiterate, it's not a flaw in the show. I oppose any criticism that implies this show could do more harm than good. It might be a flaw in the content rating system. Simply slapping a rating of TV-MA on it and adding it to Netflix (where teenagers will access it freely) is a decision I might have issue with.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Aug 1 2017 05:51pm

But isn't this just a realistic case of what happens in real life? Person dies in public way, parents always get a payout.

Sure, I'm not saying it's not realistic. It's possible to bring attention to something realistic in a way that could be construed as "glorification". Sports is a clear example of this. We glorify boxers for beating the shit out of each other. A 14 year old might get a different message from watching it than an adult who realizes full well he is not a pro athlete and will not attempt to emulate the behavior he sees.

That's why we need good parenting

There are a lot of people who have committed suicide that probably had good parents. I'd argue Hannah had great parents. I don't think you can simplify it down to this one statement.

While you are correct, and I wasn't trying to simplify it, it certainly is a strong strength to have good parenting, among the other few things I listed.

To reference the show, it's not just Hannah's parents, it's everyone else's. If Bryce wasn't raise to be an entitled, raping, asshole (obviously he wasn't purposely raised to be that way), Hannah very well could have lived.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Aug 1 2017 06:50pm

I don't think so.

I mean, it was the most traumatic thing to happen to her....it was a horrible thing....so, I would imagine that she could have overcome the previous events if she wasn't raped.

And if she wasn't raped, she wouldn't have had the ynfortunate and disappointing meeting with the guidance counsoler, that caused her to lose all hope in getting help.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Aug 1 2017 07:29pm

Didn't she decide to kill herself before that then said she would give it one more chance?

I can't quote the entire show, but what we don't know is what someone says vs what someone does vs what someone could or will do.

She mentioned while she was being raped that she had already given up, be we as an audience can't conclude that she would have actually killed herself if she wasn't raped.

In any case, my comment still stands that other parents could have done a "better" job in nearly all circumstances in the show.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Aug 1 2017 07:35pm