Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 20 2017 06:30pm)

So in an effort to cast someone into a role that is his polar opposite on several levels and holds no historical parallels on the most important events, you've reduced Trump to an extreme generalization of rhetoric, saying "They both were populists who ran patriotic/nationalist campaigns". Which of course, means you've described half the politicians to get office in the past 200 years of every country, whether its Andrew Jackson, Ronald Reagan, Berlusconi, Ross Perot, Bill Clinton, Margaret Thatcher and Kim Jong Il

If you can't fit a square peg into a round hole, boiling it down into a formless liquid and remolding it out of vague generalities is certainly one way to force it, but you've voided any validity from your comparison

Quote (fender @ Mar 20 2017 10:37pm)

i just love how all the people who commended comey for announcing more clinton email investigations right before the election now act like that very man, alongside every american intelligence service, is out to get trump on some kind of personal vendetta.

Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 20 2017 08:20pm)

difference being, that was realistic



and that is not.
Plenty of politicians, figureheads, celebrities, corporations, etc were willing to toss an all-in bet on Hillary because the stakes were good and all evidence pointed to her winning, with Trump given, in voyagings own words, at best a 25-35% chance of winning given the available data. And thats probably a competent analysis, better than Jay's at a minimum. Meanwhile, theres no evidence to suggest Trump did anything treasonous (ignoring the misuse of the war-time term), and all the evidence in the world to suggest a very direct timeline of events and rational motivations for the russia story that doesn't involve trump at all. Anyone who casts their all-in bet on Trump getting convicted is going to get blown out.

Which says to me that anyone whos willing the cross the line from heckling Trump and safely jabbing him into taking a step onto the thin, rapidly thawing ice of going full blown McCarthy, is either an idiot, or serving a larger agenda with self-sacrifice. I'm not keen to attribute to stupidity what is adequately explained by malice when it comes to well planned political maneuvers.

Quote (IceMage @ Mar 20 2017 10:42am)

How is that relevant again? NSA hid a mass data collection program so nothing they say(which conflicts with Trump's lies) can be trusted?

Crazy how the Trump cult can simultaneously claim they love our national security apparatus, they want to give it more funding, but if any leaders in that apparatus(all appointed by Trump) contradict the orange baby's lies, it's just a bunch of corrupt members of the shadow government. Maybe that's why Trump wants to cut mental health benefits, he'd lose voters.

Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Mar 21 2017 08:36am)

We will see in the end. It's hard to believe you can still be a smug faggot after getting blown the fuck out by reality every time. Evem now, you take the words of famous deep state operative who decided "ANYONE WHO DOES THIS EXCEPT FOR HER WOULD BE PUNISHED SEVERELY, PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP, HILLARY IS GUD GURL SHE DIN DU NUFFIN"

Make your jokes all you like, buddy. You're a loser. Your boy lost the primary, your girl lost the election, and try as you migh, President Trump will go unscathed by this nonsense. His agenda will be achieved, and you'll continue looking like a complete twar with a stick up your ass the whole time.

IceMage, you are the Glenn Beck of d2jsp.

Quote (IgoSoHard @ Mar 21 2017 10:30am)

Specifically, how so & when ?



Rekt



Solid argument